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We are not sustainable And neither is any other device maker. This industry is full of "feel good" messaging, but generates 50 million metric tons of e-waste each year. We believe the best way to reduce environmental impact is to create products that last longer, meaning fewer new ones need to be made. Instead of operating on feels, we operate on data and actions. With funding from Intel, we commissioned Fraunhofer IZM to do a detailed life cycle analysis (LCA) on Framework Laptop 13 to help us understand where we are today and where we can continue to improve. Check out our thoughts on reducing environmental impact and download the LCA report here...

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If I need a new laptop, I'll most likely get a Framework. Not only the ~upgradability~ repairability, but the upgradability is second to none.

The one complaint I have is that the Ethernet module sticks out of the device. Seems like an oversight to make them so thin so they can't fit an RJ-45 port. Maybe they'll develop a module with a little flap like seen on some thin laptops with an RJ-45 port.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find it acceptable to use a usb-c dongle for ethernet, even though I admit it's not as good as a properly integrated port. Overall the Framework 13-inch isn't the best if you are looking for many I/O options. I own only 4 port-modules, buy even if I had more I don't see myself swapping them more often than twice a year.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's certainly acceptable and more of a nitpick. I just find it super convenient to have Ethernet built-in. Not necessarily for desktop use (you'd probably use a USB-C/Thunderbolt dock with Ethernet anyways), but for activities like troubleshooting routers or other network devices. It's very handy when you can just take your laptop and plug it right in without having to think about any dongles or adapters or whatever.

You can of course have a permanent RJ-45 port in the Framework laptop, it's just not as aesthetically pleasing and the fact that it sticks out can cause issues with some sleeves or other cases.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I needed one and wanted one but unfortunately they don't sell it in my country so I went with a macbook pro with the thinking that it will last me longer than anything else and that's at least somewhat more eco friendly

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yea, back when I needed a laptop because my super old lenovo was on its death bed, it was when there was a chip shortage or whatever and System76 didn't have the laptop I wanted in stock and Framework didn't exist (i dont think? or it wasn't shipping anytime soon) so I went with the a m1 macair. This this is incredibly in terms of price/perf & power/perf. I get tons of battery time. It's insanely fast, doesn't get hot at all and the build quality is better than any laptop I've owned to date. I probably wont need another laptop for a couple more years at least and I've had this since 2020.

When I upgrade to something else, I'll probably hand this down to my wife or her mom tbh. So in terms of eco friendly, its going to get 6+ years of use most likely if not 10.