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Luke blew up the freakin' Death Star and he only gets to be commander. Han wants to skip out on the whole rebellion thing and he gets to be a general.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When Rogue Squadron is using the com links and looking for them after they camped out for the night, doesn’t Rogue 2 refer to both as Captain though?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Looks like we were both wrong. Luke is a Commander and Han is a Captain in Empire and this article basically answers my question, so should I delete the thread?

https://screenrant.com/why-han-outranks-luke-star-wars-original-trilogy

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That is a good read but I'm going to muddy the waters a bit.

I'll start off with saying I understand this is fiction and doesn't necessarily directly fit into real life.

In the US military the ranks Captain, Commander, and General don't exist in the same rank structure. Captain and General exist in every structure except the Navy and Coast Guard which have Commander and Captain. In the former, Captain is an O3 and General could be an O7 through O10. In the latter a Commander is an O5 and and Captain is an O6.

So at the end of ANH Luke as either an O3 or O6 and in RotJ he had separated. Han in ANH was and O5 and later jumped structures and was an O7.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think you've got that a bit turned around. I don't think Luke was ever referred to as a "Captain" so if indeed they're roughly mapping to US ranks, he would be the O5 (or possible O4 as Lt. Cmdr.s are often referred to as Commander for convenience) and then, as you say, separated or inactive in ROTJ.

If we assume Han had formal ranks and wasn't just being called Captain to acknowledge he was captain of the Falcon, he would have been the O6 in ESB and received probably some sort of brevet or field promotion to O7+ because of the importance the Alliance assigned to the ground operation on Endor. It's conceivable that he was in the "Army" track all along though and was the O3 in ESB, but I think either the honorific or Naval track is more likely.

Lando, if the scriptwriters put much thought into it, was either rolling with a title earned at Tanaab or was on a USAF track, which builds off its heritage as the Army Air Corps and Army Air Forces.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

To muddy the waters even further, I will note that it's also tradition to refer to whoever is in charge of a ship or aircraft as captain, regardless of actual military rank (or even if they're just civilians). And as Han Solo will tell you with great emphasis, the Millennium Falcon is his ship, and he is her captain.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No.

"Captain Solo. Do you copy?" "Commander Skywalker. This is Rogue 2."

So, Han is a Captain and Luke is a Commander in ESB. Tho, I don't know why Han gets a promotion to General when he's just been frozen in carbonite between films.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The years you don't do any fuckups count double