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How to avoid war with China? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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For those of us, unfortunately, in the imperial core, what steps should we take to stop a US war with China over Taiwan? I've honestly been pretty scared since the war in Ukraine started knowing that China is next. We must avoid this at all costs to save the thousands of Chinese lives that will be sacrificed by the west in their bid to reestablish a unipolar world.

While I'm not discounting the achievements of the anti-war movement in support of Vietnam, the war still waged on for years. The same with Iraq. What should be done differently?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US has been desperately trying to bring some chip fabs back to the US. I'd very much prefer to see Taiwan remain independent, but as soon as the US feels it is in a good position with chip fabrication they may suddenly change their stance on protecting Taiwan. Perhaps Xi will not live that long and mainland China can give up on Taiwan after that. He is only 70 years old so he likely won't die of natural causes before then.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US has been desperately trying to bring some chip fabs back to the US.

For sure, but the thing is, they can't fabricate them in the US for the price they can in China. They just literally can't because US citizens with the credentials to work in such an environment expect way higher pay than the workers in China do.

Phones have already become obscenely priced, but that price could double if we had to rely exclusively on US fabricated chips. While the US is trying I think you'd see an outright consumer revolt over the price increase.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Good points, but perhaps we will have to rip that bandaid off at some point. Modern phones have become a consumerist frenzy rather than any real neccesity. There are of course way more products than just phones that are more crucial. Still, maybe in 10 or so years the economy of scale will make it all viable and people's expectations will match the reality of the situation.

Or we could go to war with China. 😑