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I'm shopping for a new car, and would like to choose one made with the least bad labour practices, if possible.

My reading suggests there is literally no good choice, but curious if anyone here has a perspective that could inform my choice.

Is there any car company that shits on their workers less and/or chooses contractors/vendors that shit on their workers less than the rest? Or are we just doomed to drive around the blood sweat and tears of exploited persons?

Shopping in America.

Edit: New to me. Used just as likely.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The VIN tells you country of manufacture with the first digit. US is 1, Canada is 2, Mexico is 3, Japan is J, and Germany is W, to cover the main ones you'll see in the US. You'll likely have base your model choice on that. It's not like you can request a Japanese Accord just for fun. Sometimes a particular trim might be built in Japan for some reason. I think the Subaru Crosstrek and most Mazdas are still Js

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if that originally stood for West Germany

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Seems that way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_identification_number#Country_or_region_codes

  • SN-ST Germany (formerly East Germany)
  • W Germany (formerly West Germany)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

TIL how to read VINs. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not like you can request a Japanese Accord just for fun

You can, you'll just have to pay for it. I fix cars for a living, I've worked on a handful of imported right hand drive cars for a few people. Most of those cars came out of Japan.

Granted, most of them weren't Honda Accords, because someone willing to spend the money to custom ship a Japanese car across the ocean is probably buying something more impressive than that. But you could do it if you wanted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

New? Or you talking 25 year old imports? For us mortals in the US, you can't readily get a new car here from another continent. That's what I'm assuming OP is buying since it sounds like they want to support the manufacturer directly. Import cars have to be 25 years old, registered as display/exhibit only, have a bunch of paperwork to convince the vehicle commission that your import is "substantially similar" to a USDM version, or supply 4 duplicates for them to crash test and pass US emmisions. Or of course have fuckyou money, drive it like it's stolen, and not care when you get fined $10k and watch Customs crush your car. That goes for VIN swaps too.

And nah, I bet you someone has imported a JDM Accord a dozen times by now. The nameplate is old enough, right? Americans keep importing garbage cars for the status. I'm guilty of shopping for kei trucks but bought a Sidekick instead

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Mazda produces in Mexico, Japan, and USA. Only the CX-50 is made in a Toyota collaborative production facility in Huntsville, Alabama under vin 7MM.