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Apple users bash new iPhone 15: ‘Innovation died with Steve Jobs’::Smart phone fans are griping about Apple's new devices since the arguably anti-climactic announcement of the forthcoming iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus on Tuesday.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Usb-c is going to be a big deal for connecting devices to the phone.

Android users welcome you to 2017...

Now I don’t need to have some studios lightning adapter to plug in a usb drive or to get video out.

...or not. Apple will limit USB-C to USB 2.0 speeds so... good luck with that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't the limit apply to non-pro devices only (which is still ridiculous btw)?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That is correct as the Pro devices have the A17 chip and the non pro are on the older A16 chip.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wtf so the non pro are even worse than last year pro in every aspect?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The iPhone 14 Pro had the A16 chip. The 15 non-pro now has the A16 chip so they’re “passing down” the previous chip to the no -pro line, at least this year. Previously, they reused the A15 from the iPhone 13 lineup which was also re-used for the non-pro 14 iPhones.

Apple A15 & Apple A16

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

no, the 15 is effectively the 14 Pro in an aluminum shell and 2 cameras instead of 3.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And still 950€ for the base model ...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this a first year sort of thing or is it going to be this way going forward? Like, they didn't want to have to engineer it for the older chip because it'll be dropped after this year whereas the A17 will likely power the non-Pro Iphone 16 and the A18 will power the Pro version. I don't put it past Apple to pull some douchery to try to drive Pro sales, but there could be a logical reason for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They’ve done it the last couple of models.

It’s a way to further differentiate the pro from the non pro, and to keep the non pro price the same. They haven’t changed the price on that since the 12.

The base has been $799 since 2020. Inflation alone should mean it would be $950 this year with no other changes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Seems that it comes down to Apple adding a USB 3 controller in the ~~A16~~ A17 chip where the ~~A15~~ A16 did not have one embedded. They’d otherwise need to have an external controller to add support in the non-pro phones which is easier said than done when dealing with a phone. Annoying but understandable at least.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A17 and A16 respectively. You’re behind a year lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks - numbers are hard lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pro models support up to 10 gigs per second which is a touch more than 2.0

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

e.g. "pay us to remove the artificial speed."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Honestly I am fine with it. It looks like they did not have the usb3 controller built into the cpu until they made the 17 and m1 chips. To be honest, I am not going be moving any large files between the phone and a flash drive, at most a short video. The slower speeds will not bother me.