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Apple users bash new iPhone 15: ‘Innovation died with Steve Jobs’::Smart phone fans are griping about Apple's new devices since the arguably anti-climactic announcement of the forthcoming iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus on Tuesday.

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[–] [email protected] 142 points 1 year ago (39 children)

Steve Jobs didn't innovate a thing in his life. Apple has always been stealing tech and pretending that they created it.

Now with this new version, they don't even have much anything to steal. At best, they pretended that the EU didn't force them to adopt USB 3 and boast how much faster it is than Lightning port.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Actually the EU only forced them to adopt USB C. Only their 'Pro' model actually has USB 3. Imagine having to pay a premium for the luxury of a 15 year old technology

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

And they still don't have PD on the pro.

My guess is that they'll be going portless soon, and don't want users freaking out that they can't change their phones as quickly, so they're intentionally nerfing the charge speeds on USB C.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

They have to have USB power delivery by the EU law but only as fast as the device supports at all. So if they only have 20W charging at all that's legal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

USB C without PD ain't compliant with the EU regulation, so I hope for them, and their users, that PD is onboard.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A 15 year old technology pretty much every other phone uses now. A technology used in pretty much every modern laptop - especially Apple's own - and many desktops.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

15 years ago was Micro-USB, which was awful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Apple just wants to get rid of low income people having an iphone.

Iphones whole thing has always been to be a luxury brand, that only rich people can afford.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did Jobs build teams that invented the GUI, the cellphone, multitouch gestures, or mobile web browsing? No, he didn’t. But he built teams that productized those things better than anyone else before them, and that team forever changed our expectations for computing.

To be an innovative composer you don’t have to invent new instruments, scales, time signatures, etc. You have to know how to arrange existing stuff in new ways.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, I am not a Jobs fan boy at all but he definitely had a clear goal and required people to get the product right before shipping it, to the extent to which that was possible for the tech at the time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah. The man was a piece of shit in several ways, but he was also good at what he did.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Yeah because the first iPhone wasn’t a Revolution,

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It was not revolutionary in the sense of technology, it was revolutionary in the sense of getting the general public to understand and accept the idea of a smartphone.

EDIT: Not to say it's still necessary. I mostly stick to the iPhone because I don't want to repurchase all the apps I already purchased, some for a significant amount, if I have to replace my phone. If that becomes moot one day, like if iPhones get to the point that they're unusable or somehow Apple goes under, I'll switch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

So they had "innovative marketing", ok.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

~~Except that their implementation of USB-C will be way slower than the lightning port.~~

Edit: I've been schooled.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The lightning port is USB 2. The 15 is USB 2, powered by the same USB 2 chipset as the 14 pro. The only difference is the connector not the cables or encoding.

The 15 pro has USB 3, which is faster than the lighting port ever was.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Oh, I've been schooled. Thanks.

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