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The switch to USB-C is good! Except for all the dongles you’ll need to get there.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I love a lot of Apple’s products, but their wires are easily the worst of the worst. They’re expensive and made to fall apart after like 6 months.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’m still using the cable that came with the 5s. What are you doing with the cables?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The main predictor of cable wear is whether people are using the phone while the cable is attached.

If you just leave it to charge they will last for u years. If you continue to use them while they are charging, life span of the cable is measured in weeks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why would that make a difference?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The material on the cable gets bent and twisted more while you’re using the phone. The wire is warmer while current is running through it (even if not immediately perceptible) and the material Apple uses (which they switched to for environmental reasons) is more brittle as it warms up. Combine the flexing and twisting with the heated state and the cable is more prone to breaking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But even if you're not using it, the power adapter will still push the same wattage, no? I mean, why wouldn't it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Correct, but using it, or not, the cable heats up. It’s only when using it that the cable is put under additional strains and stresses. Often times people rest the cable on their palm, bending it at odd angles, not intentionally but absentmindedly. These are stresses on the cable that wouldn’t exist if it were simply sitting and charging. The usage doesn’t draw more power, it just increases the likelihood of miss handling the cable. Now, if a cable is built out of materials that are less biodegradable, or contains certain chemicals that are bad for the environment, they are less likely to break down under similar circumstances. It’s kind of a catch 22. You can make cables that do not contain harmful chemicals, but breakdown easily, or you can make cables that don’t break down easily, but potentially contain harmful chemicals. The real issue is, no matter what, e-waste is being created with disposable cables.

I don’t use my phone while plugged in (mostly because my battery life and usage habits don’t require it), and actually don’t typically plug in at all because I charge wirelessly overnight. But I do have an every pack-in lightning cable I’ve received with an iPhone since they started using lightning, and none of them are broken.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Have you ever bent a paperclip back and forth until it broke? Same concept.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that specific to the lightning or also the usb-c?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s specific to cables, and matter in general. More motion is more strain is more wear.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I've had several fall apart from usual wear and tear. If you roll them up, pack them, run them on things, pull them in and out of bags/pockets etc they wear down pretty quickly compared to even mid range aftermarket cables. I have some nice baided cables Ive had for 10+ years. I can't imagine and apple one lasting that. Unless it just sits plugged into an outlet all the time, any cable last forever like that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Connecting to my car’s head unit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Gotta love the Macbook charger cables that wear down to exposed wires after a few years of normal use. Some will even give you a small sparky lightshow reminding you it's time to be a consumer again!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I had a MacBook Pro with the 1st generation Magsafe, I went through 2 legit Apple chargers and 3 off brand ones in the 9 years I had the laptop. One of the off brand chargers even exploded! Well, a capacitor inside it exploded, but it was designed well enough that it didn't damage anything else or catch fire.

I've only ever had that one laptop, and I was using it in college so I was constantly plugging and unplugging it, so I have no idea how abnormal that cable use is.

Magsafe is super cool, and it definitely saved my computer from certain death several times, but damn it sucked buying those expensive chargers. It would've been nice just to buy the cable, not the whole damn charger.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I now use a USB-C to magsafe 1 adapter on my Mid 2012 MBP, free to replace the cable and charger at any time. Currently using a 65W PD brick and a nice long 10ft/3m cable 😁

The magsafe connector has saved my ass a bunch of times too LOL, my previous barrel jack laptop was yanked off tables more than a few times. Uni lectures were the worst as multiple people wouldn't see the charger on the floor and trip on it 🥲

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I currently have an iPhone cable that is frayed at the neck of the iPhone connection end. It’s from repeated bending from completely normal use. I had to stop using it because it was actually making my iPhone hot and was having sluggish connection issues. This is now the 3rd cable to do this and that includes MacBook cables too.

Apple intentionally makes them cheap because they’re such an easy moneymaker for them. I have tons of old cables from other devices that have never had this issue, so I know this isn’t some isolated thing and I’m somehow the stupid one in the scenario. Their cables are terrible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My 2011 MacBook Pro is on her original charger… I don’t know how you all take such poor care of your stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same. I’m still using my original lightning cable (USB-A and all) and it looks almost new other than some staining from use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same! I DO tape and heat-shrink the ends of my lightning cables now, though… after one of my cats decided my extra long one looked absolutely delicious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, my secret is just to not have cats. Lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's the people who tightly wind their cords up every time they put it in the bag. I always just loosely put the charger in my bag to minimize stress on the ends of the cords.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My 14” MacBook Pro has a braided MagSafe cable. It took way too long but they did finally fix that problem.