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Perhaps this is a cultural thing, but doublespeak seems to be prevalent even in casual conversation

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[โ€“] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Whether intentional or not their reply was hilarious.

And OP just read 1984.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

/post [mic drop]

Its going to get funnier the longer he avoids answering lol. In my mind, he could be referring to anything from double speak (doublethink), double entendres, puns, double meanings, etc. He needs to show some of his thinking so we can answer intelligently

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

1984 was doublethink, not doublespeak

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

"War is Peace" is doublespeak; an inherent contradiction. Anybody can say it and still see the contradiction and believe that it isn't true. Doublethink is the internalization of that doublespeak. A Party member says it and sees no contradiction. Deep in their hearts, they understand that to be in a never ending war is to experience neverending peace.

All that to say that doublespeak was certainly a thing in the novel, as it labours on the distinction between doublespeak and doublethink.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Maybe OP didnโ€™t just read it then. Maybe, like me, they read it years ago and misremembered