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Most of the points are good advise, a few of them rub me the wrong way. Considering that the author is somebody in higher management, a few of them sound like "how to collect brownie points" and "how I'd like my butt to be kissed by my underlings", utterly self-serving - OTOH maybe those indeed are the rules of the game, and those who think that particular game is worth playing might want to pay attention.
Any specific examples? I never got that impression, but maybe I'm being naive.
More likely that I am the naive one - I know that there is no place without politics (we're all humans after all), but I strive to minimize politics, because it drains me.
What I meant specifically were those two points:
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Beyond basic human courtesy, I don't agree that the fragility of other peoples ego should be the leitmotif of communication in a professional setting. I'd think a senior engineer should be able to speak up without beating around the bush, both to peers and higher-ups. I would assume for the higher-ups it should be more valuable to get candid responses from those in the trenches than smile-and-nod-yes-men responses.
And I think the counterpart of the second "listen to other engineers’ ideas without feeling threatened" is really good advice, because unlike the other one it is under your control and also a good thing in itself.
Then I also find "How to get another engineer to do something for you by asking for help in a way that makes them feel appreciated" has a bit of a manipulative touch.
That doesn’t seem politics to me, but empathy. Approaching people without considering their moods and feelings is a recipe to be badly interpreted (specially given the ambiguities in human interaction).
I would say part of being truly efficient in any role is being able to do the role efficiently even in less than ideal situations or with less than ideal coworkers.
In my personal experience significantly more people think they don't react emotionally than actually don't react emotionally so it's better to support each other than trying to inefficiently turn into machine together.
Yeah, especially when they could be phrased more generally. I think being able to talk to people who believe they know more without sounding condescending yourself is important in any context, no need to make it about respecting authority. Does the author believe condescending to people lower than them is acceptable?