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Prominent "free-speech absolutist" threatens to sue Jewish anti-hate group because it engaged in free speech he didn't like.

"Elon Musk has threatened to sue the Anti-Defamation League after accusing the civil rights group that campaigns against antisemitism and bigotry of trying to “kill” his X social media platform.

"The owner of X, formerly known as Twitter, said the ADL was trying to shut down his company by 'falsely accusing it and me of being antisemitic'."

If your list of enemies includes the ADL, then there's a more-than-reasonable chance that you're an anti-semite.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/05/elon-musk-sue-adl-x-twitter

@technology #twitter #musk #ElonMusk

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So lemme get this straight. Elon Musk is accusing the Anti Defamation League of Defamation, not because their accusation that hate speech has a platform on twitter is false, since be knows exactly who let the hate speakers onto the platform as the "free speech absolutist", but because they pointed it out?

And then he jumps to "they're calling me an antisemite" which feels like hanging yourself by your own rope by jumping to conclusions.

Yeah dude. Gotta tell ya. If the ADL, ACLU, or Southern Poverty Law Firm say you suck, I'm going to side with them

Edit: spelling mistakes

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The thing is this shit works for right wingers. They genuinely believe that the ADL calling someone an antisemite, or even suggesting they might be, is the same as the government kicking your door down and murdering you because you used "free speech"

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If there's one characteristic I've found to be widespread among right wingers, it's black-and-white thinking. They don't do "sometimes" or "partially" or "60%". They just do "is" and "is not". Vaccines either work or they don't. Immigration is either bad or it's good. Climate change is either 100% there today or it's not happening, and if not every climate phenomenon is humans' doing then none of it is humanity's fault. Either every government regulation and law is good or government is simply bad. Either everyone gets guns or no one does. They apply this same black-and-white thinking to free speech.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

"Only a sith deals in absolutes."

Obi Wan's not a bad guy, but it's important to note the irony of such a statement.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I see where you are coming from, I don't think this is a pattern of thinking that applies only (or primarily) to right wingers but rather to political radicals of all sorts. We see similar bullshit coming from the far left with "all straight white males are oppressors" and similar statements. Might also be a result of social media echo chambers, who knows...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It definitely happens with extremists on both sides, but I think it's much more common on the right. Like, I encounter it on streets all the time from the right. I recently had a "climate change doesn't exist because a day was cool last week" conversation with someone on the fourth-straight record high day in a row.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Might also be because there are more radical right wingers than left wingers where you live

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i'm looking forward to hearing his made-up defense against this made-up attack, like "this is hurtful, i am not antisemetic, i love the Jewish people".

Elon, the federal court does not exist to validate your feelings. you are wasting peoples' valuable time and resources.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I'm not antisemitic, Kanye is one of my best friend"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

It’s long past the time to stop caring what they think. They’ll make themselves the victim no matter what, there’s no reasoning with them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You didn't find all the spelling mistakes..

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The curse of exclusively using mobile. The message still gets through

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That was rather petty of me. Need to get rid of old reddit habits 😒