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"Zelensky takes a lot of photos with soldiers? Military dictatorship!" (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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A user laments that apart from this post, a statement made by pacifists in the year 2020, nobody outside russia calls Ukraine a military dictatorship.

How could that be, I wonder.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Praising nazis. For... shuffles cards defending the country against an agressor?

You forgot the picture (I know of Utkin though, maybe don't do w h a t a b o u t i s m, especially when I never said I supported Russia, and this is the only person you're able to point to whereas in Ukraine Nazis are everywhere [1] [2] [3] [4] [5], you're being dishonest in order to shuffles cards discard criticism of the prevalence of Nazism in Ukraine)
If you need the support of Nazis for your struggle perhaps you need to reconsider what you're doing (if they're such a "small part" of the struggle as well, as people claim, then surely Zelensky doesn't need to resort to such sycophancy and can jail these people). Zelensky wears and advertises Nazi merchandise [1] [2]; does photoshoots with Nazis (that's Azov's Andriy Biletsky, who previously stated that his goal is to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade… against Semite-led Untermenschen” ); Ukraine is known for connections to the far right, to the extent that U.S. Congress removed a ban on funding Neo-Nazis in order to support Ukraine.

You can't just hand wave this away as "Zelensky is Jewish"; in fact, Right Sektor antisemite Dmitro Korchynsky said it's convenient that the president is Jewish, because it means that it is harder to accuse Ukraine of nazism. You're playing right into the hands of people who are actively harming and seeking to kill minorities] and who uphold Nazi collaborators as heroes. You are a horrible person.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh woe is me, horrible people exist, and they exist even in Ukraine. The shock. The horror. You pointing to five youtube videos (lol) that apparently show nazis has exactly zero value. Maybe get russia to stop invading Ukraine, then we can start talking about whether or not Ukraine has a nazi problem.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

"Horrible people exist" is the claim now? I thought they were "heroic defenders against an aggressor?" No mention of how I turned your "he's Jewish" defense on its head, no mention of how Zelensky wears and advertises Nazi merchandise, no mention of how these horrible people who simply "exist" are propped up by Zelensky and the government (no, all I showed was that "horrible people exist"). No mention of how these Nazis are CURRENTLY harming minorities in Ukraine, "let's just worry about that after" no I don't think so. I fucking hate Nazis, and I am not waiting for ANYTHING to challenge the government being soft on them (supporting them, advertising them, praising them) and allowing them to commit atrocities against their own population. Fuck you for supporting this, and in a just world you would be shot.