Pop!_OS (Linux)
Pop!_OS is an operating system developed by System76 for STEM and creative professionals who use their computer as a tool to discover and create. Unleash your potential on secure, reliable open source software. Based on your exceptional curiosity, we sense you have a lot of it.
Whether this is your first experience with Linux, or your latest adventure, all are welcome to discuss and ask questions about Pop!_OS and COSMIC. Keep the discussions friendly though, and remember to assume good intentions whenever you reply. We're all here because we have a shared love for Linux and open source software.
Support us by buying System76 hardware for you or your company! Or by donating on the Pop!_OS website through the "Support Pop" button. Pop!_OS and COSMIC are fully funded by System76 hardware sales. All systems are assembled in the USA. With your support, we'll work to push the Linux desktop forward with COSMIC.
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Community Rules
Follow the Code of Conduct
All posts on pop_os must adhere to the Pop!_OS community Code of Conduct. https://github.com/pop-os/code-of-conduct
Be helpful
Posts to pop_os must be helpful. When responding to a user asking for help, do not provide tongue-in-cheek responses like "RTM" or links to LMGTFY. Linking to direct sources that answer the asker's question is fine, but it's advised to provide some explanation as to how you got to that source.
Critique should be constructive
We within the Pop!_OS community welcome helpful criticism or ideas on ways to improve. However, basic "It's bad" or other simple negative comments don't help anyone fix anything. When voicing a complaint about something, try to point out ways the complaint could be improved or worked around, so that we can make a better product for it.
This rule applies to both Pop!_OS and its projects as well as other products available from third-parties.
Don't post malicious "advice"
It can be funny to joke about malicious commands, however this is not the venue for it. Do not advise users to run commands which will lock up their systems, steal their data, or erase their drive. Examples of this include (but are not limited to) fork bombs, rm, etc.
Posts violating this rule will be removed, even if the post is clearly in jest. Repeated offences may lead to a ban. You may understand that the command isn't serious, but a new user might not.
No personal attacks
Posts making a personal attack on any user will not be tolerated.
No hate speech
Hate speech of any kind will not be tolerated. Any violations will be removed, and are grounds for a ban.
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Fair enough, but why is pop_os almost two full OS releases behind Ubuntu?
Do you not know what LTS is?
is pop going to base on Lts moving forward, like mint, or its too early to say?
Mint is based on LTS and they release two versions a year and update their package base. I respect what the pop_os guys are doing, which I guess includes you, we need more modern DE's besides gnome and KDE. I know what LTS is, it's just odd that you guys haven't updated pop_os for over a year, and the last time I used an OS that did the same thing, Solus, the whole project went to shit. I'm on endeavourOS now, but I've been keeping an eye on the progress of cosmic hoping to see an updated version of pop because I genuinely love the style and look of the OS. If you're updating packages and keeping up to date on as many packages as possible then I definitely retract my original post.
Pop is semi-rolling distro, they don't need to release "point updates", they're not behind Ubuntu at all.
It is not the same 22.04 build from two years ago. It's using the same Ubuntu 22.04 LTS baseline and updates whatever they can with their own repos overwriting Ubuntu, such as mesa, kernel, and drivers. Every updates released to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS repos is made available to Pop users as well.
I just got an update on Pop for kernel 6.4.6 yesterday. Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS is the most recent update and it only uses 5.19 kernel.
What are you talking about? We update Pop!_OS constantly. You're effectively saying all the work I and the QA team do each week is non-existent and pointless. There's a person regularly creating posts with package updates from our pop-os/repo-release repo. There are updates from last week that will be released this week.
Our ISOs are rebuilt every week or so to include all of the changes. Therefore we release ~30 "versions" of Pop!_OS each year. Which is required to ship new System76 products, as they contain the latest hardware on the market at time of release.
So once again, LTS means Long Term Support, which means it actively gets updates for a long time. In this case, until 2031. Security updates from Ubuntu, and various system updates from us that's similar to a rolling release.
I think most people only look at the gnome version when talking about updates. Then if their distribution ships a year old kernel version they don't even notice. System 76 is taking care of the user experience from the hardware to the software, a bit like Apple does, but in an ethical way, using free software and even open sourcing hardware. I've been running pop since I discovered it (in 2018 i think) and at this point I'm probably biased, but i think its quality is unrivaled. I really hope the release of cosmic will help you conquer all kinds of users, since, as we said, people only look at the desktop environment. About the rebase, ubuntu started stinking and some people won't consider ubuntu derivatives, it's just a perception thing. I see a rebase as a marketing move more than anything, but the return on the investment is probably not there.
That's great, then I stand corrected. I don't use pop on a regular basis so please don't think I'm trying to insult your work, simply stating the perception from the outside. Clearly that's not the case and I'm in the wrong. I also didn't know you rebuild the ISOs every week as again, I don't use pop regularly.