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UPDATE 2 It seems that starting today, uBlock Origin is working to combat this Youtube Block. Mine started working again! Lets all thank the devs of UBO for fighting this fight!

UPDATE So as new info comes out, I'll be posting it here. It seems as if this Rollout Has Several Parts.

Part 1

You get a popup message over top of your video, blocking the screen:

  • This is the first sign. If you see this popup AND are logged into a YouTube account, your account has been selected.
  • At this stage you can likely close or block these messages with an adblocker.

Part 2

This message will change, indicating that you have 3 remaining videos to watch without ads.

Will insert photo once one has been found

  • At this stage your adblocker will imminently stop working in 3 videos time.
  • Personally using Firefox + uBlock Origin and tweaking filters and updates does not even fix it.

Part 3

None of the video loads now, everything looks blank.

  • At this stage you must tred new ground to avoid ads. I have posted methods in the comments. If you want to bypass this end page, read down there.

End of Update


YouTube has started rolling out anti-adblock to users inside the United States, which means that they are preparing to roll this out to the entire country. Personally, I have been blocked already. I want to gauge how common this occurrence is.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is such a better use of their time and dollars versus improving their service to make it more attractive to customers.

If this is the change that really sets them financially straight, then I would say they have a failing business model.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is such a better use of their time and dollars versus improving their service to make it more attractive to customers.

Making their service more attractive to customers is precicesly what they're trying to do.

It's just that an advertising agency's customers are not the folk who watch, read or hear the ads, it's the folk who pay for the ads.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am not sure if it will work out like this though. The amount of ads they are forcing down peoples throat is isane. Eventually it will make people consume less videos and with that less ads overall.

[–] BlueBockser 10 points 1 year ago

And thus the enshittification cycle completes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I am not sure if it will work out like this though. The amount of ads they are forcing down peoples throat is isane. Eventually it will make people consume less videos and with that less ads overall.

Sure, could be - but keep in mind that they have all the relevant usage data at hand. Any decrease in service popularity among users (or indeed any kind of user behavior) is immediately visible to them. They have the means to know exactly what annoyances the market will bear.

And considering that YouTube still holds a de-facto monopoly on video discoverability within the entire anglophone internet I feel like it's safe to say that the market will likely bear a lot more annoyances :P

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You are not the customer. You are the product.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes, but if they destroy their products (aka drive users away) their real customers (ad companies) will pull out.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

capitalism (or at least the weird version of it used in the tech world) is about short term profit. if they get good numbers from this, they can make future projections of an imaginary increase over the years and make the ad companies happy for a while. they do not care about breaking the product in the long term

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I know. This was just the intelligent person view. In reality, as you said, they only care about short term profit, and can you blame them? Things can change overnight in the tech world. Google (as a product) was undisputed until ChatGPT was released and integrated into Bing, now Alphabet is falling vehind and losing its dominance on the market.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Just ask Twitter/X or what's left ot it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Less viewer numbers to show to advertisers.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If premium cost $5per month I'd pay for it, u use YouTube all the time

No way in hell it's worth $15 a month though, their pricing is completely brwindead

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I agree. It’s around $22 NZD and that is just too steep. They have a slightly cheaper one but you can’t background play with it. I’m sick of being nickel and dimed at every possible opportunity and then hearing about how these companies are making record profits.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Just make a (digital) trip to India and get family of 5 accounts for about 1$ a month per account. This the way I did it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I won't give a penny to the evil google.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's $25/mo for family. I hate that I pay for it, but I use music, and I mostly watch YouTube on a streaming device, so I've never been able to use ad blockers. $15 for the fam felt worth it, but $25 has me rethinking. Maybe I can configure YT-DL to get the shows I care about on my Plex

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Any android based streaming device can run SmartTube (formerly SmartTube next). On an Android phone you can patch the YouTube apk with revanced, which also gives you full access to yt music.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nope, not available her ein the states.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/premiumlite

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

So you know that the people watching YouTube aren’t really considered “customers” by google in the traditional sense, right?