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There is a whole lot of things that aren't fresh but are good for us and better than fruits. Interesting statement.
I've been trying to think of things commonly sold in supermarkets that are not fresh and that are more healthy than fruits, and after a few minutes I have to say I came up blank.
Maybe vegetable soup? Not sure if you can get a good soup at the supermarket.
Care to share a few examples?
Whole grains, lentils, frozen vegetables, plenty of meats, fish, eggs. These come to mind. In the perfect world I would give fruits a blanket stamp of approval (I know right, the self-importance). But almost nobody I know don't already have plenty of sugar in their diet, which means fruits just compound that. That's not to mention that selective breeding has made our fruits unnecessarily sweet (try the most popular apple types after not having any sweets for a few weeks).
Of course though, there are lots of fruits and many of them are great as long as they're not processed (e.g. smoothies).
I generally just go for vegetables. Getting into them can be tough but once you do they're a game changer for your palate.
Pedanticism aside, fruits are miles better than almost any sweets. So if you do manage to replace cake time with fruit time, congrats. That's a huge step.
I think you're both on the same side of things but had a comm glitch on the word "fresh". You think of fresh as being totally unprocessed, Wols think of fresh as being minimally processed (I believe they count whole grains, legumes, and dried vegetables as fresh)
That does indeed seem like the hangup in this case, and it's on me; I should have used a less vague word or else clarify.
To me fresh is anything that hasn't been processed for preservation (except drying). So cheese isn't fresh, heat treated milk/cream isn't fresh, smoked and cooked meats aren't fresh, pickled foods aren't fresh, frozen foods aren't fresh and anything with actual preservatives added is definitely not fresh.
"raw" would probably have been the better word to use.
Also, having thought about my own understanding of the word a bit more in depth, I'll concede that some pickled veggies are pretty healthy, as well as yoghurt.
You were right with all three examples.
Good points.
I would argue that grains, lentils and eggs are fresh, as well as most meats that I would consider "healthy" enough to be compared with fruits, but that's maybe due to my perhaps non-standard understanding of the word so I apologize for the confusion (let me conveniently hide behind the "non-native speaker" excuse).
I concede frozen vegetables.
I agree that veggies (especially legumes and root vegetables) are even healthier than fruits.
But I think we should encourage fruit consumption as a more healthy way to enjoy sweet things.
I think it's more effective than to continue consuming large amounts of processed foods with added sugars and more pragmatic than trying to cut out everything sweet altogether.
Most unhealthy diets are caloric surplus anyway, so I think it makes more sense to replace things than to simply add them, and fruits are a good substitute because they taste really good by default.
I enjoy many vegetables, but most are not that tasty without good preparation (cooking, seasoning, etc. - notable exceptions: carrots & tomatoes).
You can just bite into a banana and it tastes great, scratches that sweet craving and will also satiate you a bit; a good substitute for a chocolate or ice cream. Or a bag of chips.