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Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: 'You get fired on the spot.'::Tesla CEO Elon Musk's ‘ultra hardcore’ work culture is revealed to have led to long hours, unsafe conditions, and harassment for employees.

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Firing for relatively small mistakes just means people will cover up mistakes in the future leading to them causing serious accidents. People who make mistakes learn from them and not only rarely make that mistake again, but help others learn from that mistake.

I'll happily admit when something is my fault. And I'll document and implement changes that help prevent it from happening not just to the teams I lead but as much of the company as I can influence.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you told Musk, that he is causing net loss for the company this way, he would answer " so then the workers need to work harder". He can't be at fault.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

"Just stop making mistakes. Also work overtime under stress."

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

Companies pay when people make mistakes.

Why the fuck would you fire someone when you just paid for a lesson that prevents further mistakes?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And guess what happen when you ask workers to work 10 hours a day every day? Mistakes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Or when workers aren't guaranteed vacations. Or when vacation days are mixed up with you sick days.

A sick employee who can afford to stay home won't cost the extra due to other employees getting sick.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile the thing other employees learn from the firing approach is to get better at covering up their mistakes.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same thing when children get punished too harshly or unfairly. They just learn how to lie and hide things

[–] emptyother 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Non-fun fact: If you punish kids unfairly enough, they'll stop giving a shit about lying because they get punished whether they lie or tell the truth anyway. Fucked up personal experience.

But they do still hide stuff. And lose all respect for punishment.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

There is a story about a Japanese airline pilot who had to ditch a plane near I want to say San Francisco. No major injuries, no fatalities. When questioned during the inquiry, he said something to the effect of "I believe you Americans have a saying 'I fucked up'", and completely took responsibility. Instead of firing him, in recognition of his honesty, the airline demoted him back to the beginning of the pilot rankings and had him work his way back up. Within a decade he was back in his former position. The lesson is, own your mistakes!