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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It is not unsafe.
It is not 100% private. Admins can read your messages if they choose to investigate your messages.

These points contradict one another.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How so? The message is safely delivered solely to the intended recipient, albeit in plain text (not private).

If there's anywhere that the commonly used email analogy fits, I think it would be here

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Safe and private are synonyms in this context.

[–] towerful 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I disagree.
Users likely trust their instances admins

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless I run a Lemmy instance myself (which is possible), I have zero reason to trust an instance's admins.

Even if my instance's admin happens to be the founder of privacyguides.org, that doesn't mean he will never read any "private" messages (or be forced by someone else to hand them over).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you don't trust the instance why would you use it? 🤨

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Even if I did fully trust my instance, I also would have to trust any instance I message with.

I personally just use Lemmy for public comments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@towerful @booty Kolectiva revealed that might not be a great idea... Depending on how safely you want your data to be treated. Like it or not, it got seized by the US

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

What definition of safe are you using which makes a private messaging system without privacy safe? What would have to occur for it to become unsafe, if not being private does not make it unsafe in your eyes?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No; they don't. You just wanted to be a reply guy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They absolutely do. A private messaging system which is not private is the definition of unsafe. Especially in the context of a post on [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does what it claims to do, it's just that what it claims to do is clearly not complete privacy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

If something claims to be unsafe and delivers, that doesn't make it any more safe.