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I'm talking specifically about obeying the speed limit, doing a full stop at stop signs, etc. After receiving a speeding ticket for doing 53 in a 50, As an experiment I went a full day obeying all traffic laws 100% and it caused so much road rage. For example, there is a 2 lane road near me with a speed limit of 50 (where I got the ticket), traffic usually moves at about 60/65. There was a huge line of cars behind me and nowhere to pull over. As soon as an opening came up on the shoulder I was about to pull over and one of the cars behind me blew past me on the on the right blaring their horn. Then another truck passed me at the next opportunity and brake checked me. Both of these cars proceeded to run a red light about 1/4 mile ahead of me endangering others. By far the worst part of driving on this 2 lane road was the 25 mph work zone which is completely ignored by everyone else. It effectively resulted in me doing 25 mph in a "60" which is very dangerous.

Having needed to spend the entire day pulling over at every opportunity to let people pass I inevitably picked up a drill bit and got a flat tire.

Even matters as simple as stopping completely at a stop sign for 1 second cause immediate anger and dangerous behavior from other drivers.

What on earth are we expected to do? All I want is to avoid speeding tickets and drive safely.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Do it anyway. If a driver crashes into you because you're obeying traffic laws, they're at fault, and their life gets ruined because they're an awful person. If someone blows through a red light, same deal. If traffic gets backed up for several miles because nobody wants to travel at the speed limit, fuck 'em, they should have left earlier. I enjoy the impotent fury that other drivers feel towards me when I'm going 35 in a 35.

It might be "immoral" and "sociopathic" for me to think this, but if someone is gonna get themself killed because they can't stand to come to a complete stop at the stop sign, GOOD, I hope they die. The world is better off without them in it. Of course, never block someone from passing you even if they have to break the law to do it. You never know when someone is bleeding out from a chainsaw wound.

[โ€“] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with the spirit of this comment, but AVOID CRASHES. Don't be dead right. A crash can cause you a lifetime of pain, avoid collisions at all costs, even if you have to break some traffic laws to do so.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This 100%. and thats my point exactly. I'm 100% confident that I'm in the right and of course there will be no legal issues with what I'm doing, but if a driver gets pissed off and speeds away resulting in someone getting killed, does that matter? Yes, its their fault but its a direct result of my actions. My only choice it seems is to just break the law.

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In principle, sure their behavior causing an accident is their problem.

In reality, if someone crashes into you because you're following the law, it still results in you having to deal with the accident (which could mean you're dead or permanently disabled).

If someone is tailgating me they are in the wrong. I'm still going to do what is necessary to get out of their way ASAP, because the longer they are there the longer they have to potentially kill me with their behavior. It doesn't matter if I'm in the right if I'm dead.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I couldn't give less of a damn if the person being the aggressor gets into an accident and/or gets injured, but very often this results in them hitting another car, or worse a pedestrian.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Get into a potentially fatal car accident on principle? Nah

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have no choice but to do this in my current car, the transmission is fucked and if I accelerate too fast it slips and I don't go any faster. So I slowly go to the speed limit and slowly slow to a slow stop

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Driving safely, saving gas, and pissing off drivers

Win/win/win

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And if I really hit that accelerator like people want me to, the thing slips, stops, and then suddenly engages full force and I burn out. So that's not much safer either

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It might be "immoral" and "sociopathic" for me to think this, but if someone is gonna get themself killed because they can't stand to come to a complete stop at the stop sign, GOOD, I hope they die.

That's not immoral or sociopathic, that's just plain dumb and shortsighted.

How exactly do you imagine someone ends up dead after running a stop sign? It very often involves a violent crash that may very well kill innocent people who did nothing wrong. They unfortunately don't take only themselves out of the gene pool.