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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's definitely gone down hill recently, but at the launch of gpt4 it was pretty incredible. It would make several logical jumps that a lot of actual people probably wouldn't make. I remember my "wow moment" was asking how many M&M's would fit in a typical glass milk jug, and then I measured it myself (by weight) and got an answer about 8% off. It gave measurements and cited actual equations. I couldn't find anything through Google that solved the same problem or had the same answer that it could have just copied. It was supposed to be bad at math, but gpt4 got those types of problems pretty much spot on for me.

I think that most people who have tried the latest AI models have had a bad experience because its power is distributed over more users.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's also the issue of model collapse, when the AI is trained on data generated by AI, the errors and hallucinations start to compound until all you have left is gibberish. We're about halfway there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

ChatGPT is trained on data with a cutoff in September 2021. It's not training on AI-generated data.

Even if some AI-generated data is included, as long as it's reasonably curated and it's mixed with non-AI data model collapse can be avoided.

"Model collapse" is starting to feel like just a keyword for "this AI isn't as good as I wanted."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I feel like you're undereducated on how and when AI models are trained. Especially for the gpt model, it's not "constantly learning" like other models. It's being tweaked in discreet increments by developers trying to cover their ass, and get it to less frequently say things they can be sued for.

Also, AI are already training other AI, that's kinda how AI are made.... There's an AI that detects how well a given phrase follows another phrase, and that's used to train the part of the AI you interact with. (arguably they are part of the same whole, depending on how you view the architecture)

CGP gray has a good into video on how bots learn, it's pretty outdated and not really applicable to how LLMs learn, but the general idea is still there.