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[–] words_number 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

I really wonder how americans were able to fuck this one up. There are three ways to arrange these and two of them are acceptable!

Edit: Yes, I meant common ways, not combinatorically possible ways.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hmmm more like 6 ways but I get your point

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Three ways that people actually use. YYYY-MM-DD, DD-MM-YYYY, and MM-DD-YYYY (ew).

AFAIK no-one does YYYY-DD-MM, DD-YYYY-MM, or MM-YYYY-DD... yet. Don't let the Americans know about these formats, they might just start using them out of spite.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

YYYY-DD-MM, DD-YYYY-MM, or MM-YYYY-DD

What the actual fuck

'hey man, what date is it today?' 'well it's the 15th of 2023, August'

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao, I want to try responding like this and see what the reactions are

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I want to try this, too. Make it more possessive, though. The 15th of 2023's August. Really add to the confusion.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll avoid those at all cost and go with the new standard of YY-MM-DD-YY. What's the date today? 20-08-10-23

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

whoa, take it easy there Satan.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Need more julian dates, YYYY-JJJ.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What, 2023-223 for the 223rd day of the year 2023? That... is oddly appealing for telling the actual progress of the year or grouping. No silly "does this group have 31, 30, 29 or 28 members", particularly the "is this year a multiple of four, but not of 100, unless it's also a multiple of 400?" bit with leap days.

You'll have oddities still, no matter which way you slice it, because our orbit is mathematically imperfect, but it's a start.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So we need to correct our orbit is what I'm hearing!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

That'd be a wack premise for a crazy scientist story

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It is currently the Third of 1993, November.

TIHI.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Twelve ways if you count two-digit years. My nephew was born on 12/12/12 which was convenient.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

for the americans, that's 12/12/12

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Thanks bro, I was really confused

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My grandmother was born in 1896 and lived to be 102, just long enough for the pre-Y2K computer systems in hospitals to think she was a two-year-old.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ouch!

I lost about an hour of my life trying to create a historical timeline in MS Excel. Eventually learned this is impossible with dates earlier than 1900.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

this guy does combinatorics

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

It's how the dates are typically said, here. November 6th, 2020 = 11/6/2020. [Edit: I had written 9 instead of 11 for November.] (We basically never say the sixth of November. It sounds positively ancient.) It's easy to use, but I agree that YYYY-MM-DD is vastly superior for organization.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where is here that November = 9? Probably somewhere you've had a long day

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oct = 8
Nov = 9
Dec = 10

In metric time there are only 10 months per year

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

We basically never say the sixth of November. It sounds positively ancient.

When is your independence day, again?

Anyway, in Australia (and, I suspect, other places that use DD/MM/YYYY) we use "{ordinal} of {month}" (11th of August), "{ordinal} {month}" (11th August), and "{month} {ordinal}" (August 11th) pretty much interchangeably. In writing but not in speaking, we also sometimes use "{number} {month}" (11 August). That doesn't have any bearing on how we write it short form though, because those are different things. It's not the defence many Americans seem to think it is of their insane method of writing the short form.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is a bit of a chicken and egg question though. Because do Americans not say it that way because of the date format or is that the date format because you don't say it that way?

Because in countries using DD.MM.YY we absolutely do say 6th of November.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's probably what happened. Though I do like starting with the larger context when talking about dates, but omitting it when talking about the current month or year.

[–] words_number 2 points 1 year ago

Saying it like that is no problem and not ambiguous. Writing it like that makes no sense though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm canadian and I've always prefered this format for the same reason. 11/6/23 is november 6th 2023, not the 11th of June 2023, that's weird.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

As a different Canadian, I always use YYYY-MM-DD and a 24 hour clock.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Except that mm/dd/yyyy and dd/mm/yyyy can be ambiguous, I definitely prefer the former if I'm not using an ISO date. But normally I just write ISO and my head translates to MMM dd,yyyy

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