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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where are the tanks in Ukraine? Well there are tanks and other heavy weapons from all western countries in Ukraine and part of Russia. It's not Uktaines' war. The territory were already under Russian influence and population. This is classic US vs Russia, NATO vs BRICs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's not what the loss data shows. https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html

These are all the visually confirmed losses. Notice how the bulk of the equipment lost is Soviet or Ukrainian. You'd think that there would be visually confirmed losses of US Army men or Marines, but there aren't. Notice also how there are no reported losses of the F-16, F-35, Rafale, Eurofighter or any western fighter. As well as the conspicuous absence of air launched missiles. The only recorded loss that the US has had is 1 MQ-9 Reaper that a Russian pilot struck when trying to light it up with afterburners. Among these Tanks: of 602 tanks destroyed over all, 14 Leos destroyed. (All of which were since June) APC: of 305 destroyed, 4 were NATO (French) IFV: of 682 destroyed, 141 were NATO

As for the Russian population? Sure, they might have spoken Russian, but did they want to be a part of Russia? Independence polls from the early 90s showed Donetsk and Luhansk wanting to leave Russia by over 80 % Kherson an Zapporizia even more so, and yet Russia claims to have annexed them, despite controlling neither.