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Memmy - An iOS client for Lemmy
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Far from it. Featurewise it is the richest, but it does not feel like home on iOS.
Regarding apps for lemmy I prefer
Avelon Mlem. This one is made with swift has checks all the iOS design guidelines boxes.
I’m not very familiar with the iOS guidelines but try to refer to them sometimes. Are there any glaring issues you are aware of that Memmy has, with the guidelines, or is it more a lot of small things? I imagine it’s easier to stay within guidelines while using SwiftUI/UIKit but maybe it’s not.
I can’t imagine what kind of iOS guidelines could make Memmy more comfortable to use. It’s so damn good.
Wouldn’t necessarily make changes off of it, would just be curious
O shit you’re the actual dev of this. I’m not sober and didn’t even think about the whole, y’know… you’re pink and IT SAYS THAT RIGHT THERE
Cannot thank you enough. What you’ve created is absolutely the best. I’ll thank you with money, because the fact that you’ve adapted my other favourite mobile developer’s app to work for this community is just exquisite.
Lmao no worries, glad you're enjoying the app! We will be adding an in app tip jar soon as well.
I’ll donate even more when ya do!
Take any of the Apple apps for example. They implement the frosted glass effect to give you a sense of foreground and background and it looks just super nice. I sent two feedback text to Memmy about this but this low hanging fruit hasn’t been implemented yet.
Then the size of the big headers that shrink down when you scroll down to reveal more content. Just real eye sugar!
We don’t read the test flight feedback because most of it is extremely low quality and we get a ton of it.
Regarding glassmorphism, it’s something difficult to do in React Native. (although Bean does it so i guess possible) I believe both gk and i are not big fans of it anyways. I don’t hate it in certain places but i honestly really don’t like it in Mlem for example. Maybe because of all the varied content i can see come through it on Lemmy, where as in Messages or Mail it’s more monotone.
Regarding the tab bar going away on scroll. I believe this is not an accessible design and am also unaware of it ever being recommended by Apple. Also unaware of it being used in any apple apps. Totally fine to like it, just don’t think it’s an iOS design guideline.
Appreciate the feedback, though i guess i thought we were talking more about UX design over aesthetics.
Oh, well, that’s good to know. And here I thought that was actually the main way we were supposed to submit bug reports and feedback
No we’ve said multiple times in the community the best way to submit feedback is in GitHub. That’s basically the only place we track anything. We’ve been meaning to just close down test flight for a while too but want to get the app in a better place after all our major refactors.
I'll chime in the other way, I detest the frosted glass effect that the user above is describing. Mlem uses this if you want to check out a reference.
I love how clean and immersive the app is current state. The foreground of the bottom bars user above (no hate, just my opinion) makes me feel like I'm on my phone and I prefer to just get lost in content
I agree, i find it pretty distracting on Lemmy in particular.
I just mentioned the tabs disappearing is better solved than in Apollo, didn’t say that was mandatory as per guidelines.
As for the frosted glass effect it is UI as well as UX, as UI contributes to the UX. If you personally don’t like it, that’s your thing. It’s especially nice to have the content scroll under the bars, it makes the static boring monotone footers and headers come to life and gives you the illusion of a bigger screen. Take the latest Netflix design on iOS for example. The header is huge, but the video poster moves so nicely under them. All the Apple iOS apps have this effect. And a lot of Apple users care
It doesn’t contribute to UX, it’s purely a visual thing. I’m more interested in design guidelines that pertain to UX and usability.
Maybe we’ll add glassmorphism as an option someday, but the priority to me would be usability issues that go against apple guidelines.
As a dev it’s nice to check all the official guideline boxes, as a user I’d much rather actually have features.
Are you saying Avelon or Mlem? They’re different apps, right?
Yeah, Avelon and Mlem are different apps. I prefer Avelon. Memmy is great but I just prefer Avelon myself. Feels more my design style with the choices the dev has made.
Avelon is super cool, i really like it and how it's unique and different
Just commented how I appreciated your support of another app in another comment. Keep up the great work, the Lemmy community thanks you!
Thank you!
Definitely +1 for Mlem. It’s my main. I’d also like to give Bean a shoutout! While it’s not entirely Swift IU (far as I can tell), it’s way more Swift than Memmy and just as if not more feature rich!
Bean isn’t swift, it’s React Native like us. If you mean more iOS like then maybe it is?
Oh, well it definitely feels like it’s using Swift UI for the majority of the UI (although not all, as I said). Regardless, great job on Memmy!
Edit: after taking a closer look at Bean (which I should’ve done earlier lol), it looks like Apple’s UI is only really used in the menus and pop-ups of Bean. That’s pretty embarrassing but oh well lol. If you’re looking for proper full swift with swift UI, Mlem is the way!
Yea we use it for the pop up menu but not the button groups yet