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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Due to the Norwegian language conflict there have been various competing forms of written Norwegian over time, two of which have been officially recognized as equally valid by the Norwegian parliament since 1885. Both apparently changed their spelling of "slut" to "sludd" in the 21st century, Bokmål in 2005 and Nynorsk in 2012, presumably in an effort to encourage English speakers to make jokes about Swedes and Danes instead of them.

[–] TomasEkeli 5 points 23 hours ago

"Slutt" (means end) is not commonly used for "sludd" (means sleet), though. Never actually seen "sludd" spelled like that, but "slutt" meaning end is extremely common.

I wouldn't expect any Norwegian to read "slutt" and assume it meant sleet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sure, except the Norwegian spelling is "slutt". The pronunciation is a bit different from the English word "slut", the English one uses more of a ø-sound for the u. "sludd" is the Norwegian word for sleet, which is a mix of snow and water, this is even stated by your sources.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where did you get that the English pronunciation had ø-sound?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Experience with English and Norwegian (should probably have sourced it), but also from wikitionary. There are some audio examples here: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slut

IPA for the word "slut" is /slʌt/, the upside-down V sounds like this. While not exactly the same sound as Ø, the audio examples on wikitionary for "slut" sounds closer to Ø for me, as I use Ø daily in Norwegian.

Edit:

Norwegian uses this sound for the "u" in "slutt", the full IPA for it is /ʂlʉtː/. For some reason there isn't IPA for "slutt" in Bokmål, but the Nynorsk pronunciation is the more or less the same. Sadly there isn't an audio recording of the word on wikitionary, but it has a double consonant which is a fun rabbit hole in Norwegian.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That’s suprising, I always thought it would be similar to ö in Finnish where I’m from. And swedish ö as in öl and danish ø as in smørrebrød.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

I'm nowhere near being an expert on languages and phonology, but I think the Ø-sounds in the Nordic languages are more or less the same. With some tiny differences on pressure, pitch, and maybe tone. Close enough to be considered the same in my opinion. It probably boils down to what would mostly be accent and dialect differences between the languages.