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Apple products aren't any better than anything else, it's just marketing and branding. They're like the Starbucks of computers.
With the exception of intel macs, they are the Lexus of computers because they are Overbuilt and long after they're discontinued you pop Linux or even Windows on them and they keep on ticking and due to the metal body they survive children better 😅. Not sure about newer apple silicon though.
I used to do data recovery and working on macbooks was a dream compared to every other plastic-and-clips cheapo laptop.
The soldered on memory is stupid but overall the build quality on them is very apparent and only comparable to very high end PC-laptops.
Apple Silicon is impressive as hell. The power consumption per performance is remarkable. A buddy of mine said on his M2 MacBook Pro, Factorio ran better even through emulation than it had on his other laptop. And much better once recompiled for the ARM architecture.
(That said, I’m sticking with the x86_64 I know and love to hate, since while I like other Apple products I’ve never gotten the hang of OSX.)
heh it truly depends on a lot of factors. I don't want to "cheap out" pn a high-end windows laptop, their thermals are shit, the battery life is non-existent, the keyboard is trash, and the computer frame are rarely decent.
A macbook is expensive, yes, but I've never experienced having to doubt the hardware, or get weird issues with it. It's a peace of mind I'm willing to pay a premium for. I even have a mac mini as a server for the extremely low power consumption & extremely good CPU performance (seriously, this thing competes with i9s for a fraction of the power (I'm exclusively interested in single thread applications))
As for iphones & apple watches, I like to tinker with my stuff way too much for them to make sense to me (which my macbook allows me to do as much as I want)
I'm exclusively talking about my experience with apple silicon, idk how it was before the M1 chips came out.
I switched to iPhones after my partner got one over a decade ago… I’ve only had three. They’ve lasted over five years. I just got my third.
I’m only now contemplating replacing my first gen Apple Watch cuz it dies before the day is done.
I can’t comment on computers but for phone and watch, I’ve had stellar experiences.
Well I know iphones are great quality devices & have long lasting support, but if I can't tinker with it then to me it's hardly better than a gilded brick
By "tinker with it" I mean installing apps like youtube revanced, playing morrowind, having access to a terminal etc
That’s fair! I have ZERO interest in tinkering on my phone. I have like eight computers to worry about. I just want my phone to browse the internet, take the best pictures possible, and last forever on battery. When I have to go into the office, I can watch videos all day at full brightness and go home to 60% battery or more. It’s perfect.
I recently switched to Android. IPhones work great, the hardware is all there, the software is probably more polished, etc... but on Android you can get the phone to do basically anything with a bit of effort. There's an app that lets you easily install most linux packages, and one that can emulate most Windows apps and games. There's a ton of open source software, and you can actually find apps that don't shove in-app purchases in your face (because devs don't have to pay $100 a year just to stay on the store)
I got PrusaSlicer to work on my phone, through the Windows emulator, and sliced one relatively complex 3D model with it. For some reason it crashed every time I tried to start it after that, but it's still pretty neat that it worked at all. PrusaSlicer has a linux build for ARM so whenever I find the time to set up one of those linux desktops on my phone I'll probably try that.