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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Horse meat is absolutely tasty, and if it wasn't so unpopular it'd probably be in the same price range as beef, overall the market is quite small, and absolutely zero horses are raised for meat. Bluntly said at the end of a horse's career an owner is asked "do you want an urn, vacuum packs, or not pay anything I'll sell the meat". If your dietary preference for meat is animals which have been loved and pampered all their life horse is a very good choice.

Trouble with the scandal back then was that it was all untracked horse meat. And there's plenty of horses around which get treated with veterinary drugs that make them unsuitable for human consumption because no owner is prioritising slaughter over their health.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Horse salami is sorta kinda common I would say. Not as in "in every household"-common, but still not unusual. Can't remember what it tastes like tho.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eh, it goes on the plate like frogs do. Horse meat is great and cheaper than beef here

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I ate horse meat before. It was chewy, and I have special ethical issues with it, like for me it's like eating a Dog. It does not matter even if it where tasty.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Your dog would not mind eating your horse. Your dog also wouldn't mind eating you.

There's two principal reasons why people make a difference between cats/dogs on the one side and horses on the other: The degree to which they're family, but very crucially also to the degree to which horses, or cows, very much aren't carnivores, it's about position on the foodchain, how much heavy metals etc. accumulate, that's not just a modern thing it's always been the case. That's why eating dogs is an exception among human cultures, while with cows not eating them is the exception.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I removed myself from the food chain a decade and a half ago by forgoing meat entirely. Now I don't have to have weird moral arguments with myself.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Nah, you're just occupying another spot on it. And unless you're an algae or something, literally living from light and elements floating about in the air and sea, you're not at the bottom.

The ecology expands beyond your pet ethical considerations.

Side question: Would you begrudge your dog eating your corpse? If you love them so much, why don't you feed them, when that is all you have left to give?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That just means you're a much higher water burden, and part of a different problematic chain. Vegetarian and even worse, vegans have loads of problems that are just as bad and sometimes worse than a normal diet when it comes to mass food production. Including displacement and harm of animals due to farming requirements for the foodstuffs you consume.

Its impossiable to not harm something living to farm after all.

About the only real way to avoid all that is self growing algae eating basically only that and being entirely self-contained.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

You can feel how you want, but the water burden thing is just factually incorrect. A pound of beef uses a LOT more water to raise than a pound of lentils. Or are you forgetting that you also have to use water to grow the stuff that the cow eats?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The first paragraph is absolute nonsense, there's no need to make false statements to justify a position irrespective of whether you're vegan or vegetarian or anything else.

In the sensitivity analysis, the environmental footprint of vegan diets is between 5% (CH4) and 38% (water use) of the footprint of high meat-eaters. For low meat-eaters, the impact is between 37% (land use) and 67% (water use) of high meat-eaters.

Dietary impacts of vegans were 25.1% (95% uncertainty interval, 15.1–37.0%) of high meat-eaters (≥100 g total meat consumed per day) for greenhouse gas emissions, 25.1% (7.1–44.5%) for land use, 46.4% (21.0–81.0%) for water use, 27.0% (19.4–40.4%) for eutrophication and 34.3% (12.0–65.3%) for biodiversity.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-023-00795-w#%3A%7E%3Atext=In+the+sensitivity+analysis%2C+the,)%20of%20high%20meat%2Deaters.