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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

They are quite literally in a cult.

The cognitive dissonance underlying their worldview is being exposed and demonstrated, and they are very obviously unable to fully reconcile basic logic and empirical reality with the idea that dear leader is a madman, and that they are cult thralls of a madman, and that he is doing exactly what he said he would do, and that they are fools for trusting in him.

Delusional cult members do not have coherent, consistent worldviews, they are full of contradictions, which are usually squelched by thought terminating cliches, highly emotional motivated reasoning (ie, 'faith'), having your own identity and personality be heavily intertwined with and dependant on the cult.

They would have to be deprogrammed like former Heavens Gate cult members or something similar.

Their minds will likely never function reasonably again. While some may be able to pull themselves out of it, similar to someone raised in a fundamentalist setting who deconverts via thorough critical skepticism... most of them are not capable of that, and will instead seek to blame shift to protect their own egos.

... Thats all to say, this person seemingly logically putting it together... but also not accepting their own logic?

This is quite normal for a cult member.

Lots and lots of cults do lots and lots of social conditioning to make the cult member accept or ignore or deflect from any objective criticisms.

That is basically what all religious apologetics is, after all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There's been studies that far right fascist supports have a smaller "empathy" section to their brain. You have to know how to approach soaking to someone like that. They only care about stuff when it affects them. In order to reach these people, you need to highlight that these things ARE hurting them, and it will continue to get worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You are describing most of my family.

I have degrees in Econ and Poli Sci.

I explained everything to them, how it would hurt them, in detail, for years.

Didn't work.

I now live many states away from them, seeing as the last time I talked to my dad he was full QAnon bonkers, and also building ghost guns (untraceable AR 15s and AR 18s) in his garage.

Logic doesn't work when too much of their personal identity is wrapped into the cult identity.