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It will be open source, end to end encrypted using Signal’s double ratchet encryption protocol, and he plans to make it easy for fediverse platforms to integrate it. The beta will release later this month.

He’s also the creator of https://fedidb.org btw

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

personally love the direction Signal is heading but would be happy to not have "all my eggs in one basket", as well as diversifying the open source E2EE communication options.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I felt that removing SMS while still having it tied to your phone number, stories, and that weird cryptocurrency were not what I was looking for in a messanger.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also don't like the fact that Signal needs your phone number and that the only way to connect to other people is by their phone number.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

And that your phone number inevitably leads to being spammed

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TIL Margot Robbie has strong opinions about encrypted messaging apps. My respect grows by the day.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everybody just want to ask me about my opinion on work, nobody ever ask me about my opinion on tech.

But using an obvious AI generated profile picture and all of a sudden I can just express opinions on things now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree. As soon as the update that disabled SMS was pushed to my phone, signal was effectively dead.

Integrating with SMS was so smart. The person who got me into it said "there is literally no reason not to do it" because it was seamless. And I used the same argument to get other people into it. But basically everyone stopped using it as soon as SMS was removed. I don't have the brain space to remember who is on signal and who is not and go to the appropriate messenger.

I read the whole long thread on their website where the devs were arguing in favor of this and all the reasons were IMHO stupid. I think someone wanted to tank signal. Got tired of funding it probably. It was too good to be true with no obvious business model so always thought the day would come, and it did. Too bad, it was very good at what it did.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think someone wanted to tank signal. Got tired of funding it probably.

This take doesn't make any sense. Signal is funded by a non-profit and has tons of money that allows them to not worry about funding in the near feature. There is nobody to "get tired of funding" them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes a lot more sense when you realize they hired an ex-Google exec to run Signal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meredith Whittaker? Artificial Intelligence researcher [0], not ex-Google exec, Meredith Whittaker who "led global walkouts" [1] against Google? Meredith Whittaker who "helped lead employee protests at Google over the search giant’s military work, artificial intelligence and policies" [2], Meredith Whittaker?

If that's who you're talking about, they chose the right person to lead a project that goes completely against the silicon valley M.O. of selling your private data to the highest bidder or mining it to sell ads. Her actions have demonstrated she isn't afraid of speaking up or pushing back against "the hand that feeds you", even at risk of being retaliated.

[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/samshead/2019/04/23/google-a-i-researcher-says-shes-being-punished-for-organising-a-mass-walkout/

[1] https://news.sky.com/story/google-walkout-leader-meredith-whittaker-leaves-company-following-claims-of-retaliation-11764114

[2] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-protest-leader-meredith-whittaker-015305645.html

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like her politics and activism, I just don't think Google and ex-Google people know the features people want out of a messenging app.

Yes I'm still very unhappy over Allo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes I'm still very unhappy over Allo.

Same, it had so much potential, but seems to have been poorly managed.