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"Cars and Independence" (Art by Sylvia Odhner) (pawb.social)

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[–] FizzyOrange 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yes it is. People praise the car as the ultimate freedom because they imagine that they can take that car anywhere.

They can!

But the moment they have a problem with their car, they literally can’t go anywhere.

Nobody is under the illusion that cars never break! Come on dude. Trains and buses are hardly infallible either!

Everyone has a story about how their car didn’t start, or about the mechanic that didn’t actually fix the problem, or how they’re still waiting on a part and can’t fix it until tomorrow.

Everyone has 10 stories about trains being cancelled or buses not showing up. That's life. Completely irrelevant to the fact that cars give you independence.

How many times has your train derailed? Is this a common problem in your life?

Obviously I was not talking about actually derailment. That was obvious to anyone not being deliberately stupid. Trains are delayed or cancelled all the time. Much more frequently than cars break down.

It's becoming clear that you live somewhere where there are no trains or buses so you have no actual experience of them and imagine them to be perfect.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago

Everyone has 10 stories about trains being cancelled or buses not showing up. That’s life. Completely irrelevant to the fact that cars give you independence.

So... again... if you have access to a train, a bus, and a car, then one single failure won't stop you. If you only have access to a car, a single failure will stop you. I don't know how to make that any more clear. It's not about a train being better than a car, it's about only having a car.

But, yes, trains and buses in a functioning mass transit system are insanely more reliable than cars. That's not just personal experience, though it's quite an assumption to make! That's just statistics.