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You're thinking of art in terms of a product. It's not. Art is an expression of creativity. People drawn to it will do it just because they can. They make money from it because capitalism doesn't give them many other opportunities to provide a basic living.
"Adapt or die" is a cute phrase when it's not being applied to yourself.
Using AI to generate the things that are in my head is still an expression of creativity, is it not? Some people use paintbrushes, some people use computer aided design and let it be printed or built by others, some people use AI. Why aren't those expressions of creativity?
Adapt or die is a fact of life. We all have to adapt to change, if I didn't have to, I'd be perfect. I'm nowhere near perfect. Neither are artists.
Yes. Not at the expense of other forms of art, though.
Because you decided it is. Society does not have to be built that way.
We do decide that. Because progress will not be stopped. If we'd let people's jobs stand in the way of progress we'd still be picking berries naked in the woods.
Progress does not at all require an "adapt or die" mindset. Not at all. And it'd still be barbaric if we did. More barbaric than picking berries naked in the woods.
You're right, it doesn't need to be die, but saving jobs isn't the way. Universal basic income is.
Which art forms are dying because of AI?
I didn't decide anything, it's just life. Move or get left behind. It's how nature works. That's just evolution. You don't have to like it, but it's a fact.
Maybe ask artists who have their work stolen to feed AI models that then take their job. Again, this is a problem because capitalism made it one.
We are not nature. We can make different decisions besides brutal evolutionary pressure.
Does the death of an artist kill an art form? As you said, art is an expression of creativity. That is expressed in many ways. People have created art before AI and they will continue creating art after. Art isn't just painting, or drawing, or acting, of sculpting, it can be found in sports, in engineering, in science, in the kitchen, on the playground, in our words, in our expressions, in fact it is everywhere around us. Attributing the death of creative expression to AI is misrepresenting the infinite ways it can be expressed.
I disagree, it's a problem because people don't want to evolve.
We are a part of nature, or you claiming we are unnatural? What even is unnatural? Viruses modify host cells and subvert them to become virus factories, is that unnatural? Monkeys, crows, turtles, dolphins, ants, and a host of other animals use tools to achieve myriad goals.
Everything is constantly changing. Everything is "evolutionary pressure". We are in no way unique in our existence. As a species, we aren't special.
All of which would be great in a society that isn't capitalist. While we still have a capitalist society, artists are having their livelihood taken away.
Which is a brutal opinion to have.
We are not slaves to nature. We can make decisions that are healthy for humanity. Killing people's livelihoods so that billionaires can become trillionares is not healthy.
That's complete bullshit. Evolution cares about your ability to reproduce and nothing else. The fact that we have things that do not help this goal is proof that our society is something beyond mere evolution.
Ah, the cursing starts when there is nothing of value left to say. Just reproduction? Survival of the fittest isn't part of it? Also, do you really think evolution is only biological? We do not evolve as a society?
Did posting this somehow increase your chances of reproduction?
Oh. So you're a social darwinist that believes that they are special enough that they'll never be in the crosshairs. Great. Here's hoping that you gain some empathy and a better understanding of human evolutionary and societal history (hint: altruism and caring for others who are unable to provide for themselves is the rule, not the exception).
Selective quoting. Love it. Forgot to quote this
If your reading comprehension allows, you'd understand that I don't think I'm special or unaffected by AI. What I do understand is that progress stops for no one. Not for you, not for me, nobody.
We should be working towards solutions like universal basic income instead of crying about AI taking jobs or whatever. Pandora's box has been opened and the only way we're putting AI back in the box is by eliminating tech or ending the human race. The latter might be a possibility with how we're messing up the environment, which would bring the former with it.