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[–] [email protected] 95 points 4 days ago (5 children)

It wasn't as bad as some (2 dead, 6 injured).

He originally started with a shotgun but it jammed without firing a shot. He grabbed a pistol from his vehicle and fired into the bystanders.

Police were on scene quickly (FSU is always crawling with plain clothes officers and unmarked cars) and shot and wounded the shooter.

[–] [email protected] 135 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, what a fucked up world we live in that we see a school shooting as “not so bad, all things considered”…

[–] [email protected] 107 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's only "not so bad" in America.

'No Way to Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

There is a really fucked up silver lining to this which is every nation not the USA can point to the USA whenever someone wants to loosen gun regulations. In a twisted way the US might be helping other nations by being such a "good" (bad) example.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

Rest of the world also has a right-wing problem. It's seeping into our culture and everyday life because they have found out how to sell fascism to the everyday, uneducated moron. Sadly, that's half the world.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Absolutely! I'm not in Germany but I hope they can use the US as an example of what not to do and absolutely destroy the AfD before it reaches critical mass.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Politicians around the word: we need to ban guns and assault rifles.

US policy makers: we need to tell the good guys they need to ~~buy~~ carry a gun.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

Also US policy makers: We refuse to do anything about the low wages, crushing debt, inaccessible health care (physical and mental), and other problems I can't even think of right now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Plenty of countries have lots of guns. Virtually none of them have any significant number of mass terror shootings, even the ones with otherwise high rates of gun violence.

America is built different.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

The rethoric of the people in power seems different, but I don"t know enough of other countries with lots of guns.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If that happened in my country it would be huge news and all anyone in the country would talk about for weeks.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

It would appear that we have standardized school shootings here in the States.

This one wasn't that bad. Remember that other one?

You going to catch The Game later?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

This is America. Don't catch you slippin'.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That pistol he grabbed from the vehicle...

...was his Mom's old service pistol.

His Mom was a school resource officer and later deputized into the Leon County Sheriffs.

https://www.newsweek.com/fsu-shooter-leon-county-deputy-phoenix-jessica-ikner-2061301

In a news conference hours after the first reports of the active shooting were announced, Leon County Sheriff Walt McNeil identified the suspect.

"The shooter is 20-year-old Phoenix Ikner ... and he is the son of a Leon County sheriff's deputy," McNeil said.

...

According to Revell during the news conference, Jessica Ikner [the shooter's mother] is a school resource officer in Leon County. The county sheriff's office website lists her as a "middle schools deputy."

Deputy Ikner was awarded law enforcement employee of the month in March 2024, the sheriff's office posted on Facebook.

...

[The Shooter] was "a long-standing member" of the Leon County Sheriff's Office Youth Advisory Council, McNeil said during the news conference.

"He has been steep in the Leon County Sheriff's Office Family," McNeil said, adding that it is "not a surprise" that Ikner had access to weapons.

...

(apologies for possibly paywalled link, try internet archive if its blocked for you)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/04/18/florida-state-university-shooting-what-we-know-about-the-suspect/

Phoenix Ikner, a 20-year-old son of a sheriff’s deputy whom police accuse of using his mother’s gun, is in police custody after being identified as a suspect in a shooting on Florida State University’s campus Thursday, which killed two people and injured at least six others.

...

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/2025/04/18/fsu-shooting-phoenix-ikener-fired-guns-deputy-mother-jessica-ikner/83159241007/

Jessica Ikner, a beloved Raa Middle School student resource deputy, was the 2023 law enforcement officer of the year with the Leon County Sheriff’s Office.

She also practiced shooting with her stepson, Phoenix, at a firing range, but “not in an official capacity,” according to LCSO.

...

Yeah so this guy was trained to shoot by his armed-with-a-firearm, middle school guard / county deputy mom, and he then took his mom's service pistol to shoot up his own school/uni.

I can't find more details on the shotgun, but it could also be the case that that is or was a service weapon as well... but that is barely informed speculation on my part, I just know that a lot of US cops also have a shotgun in their cruiser.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The headline is using 'was' as a weasel word.

They know it'll be click bait because it will be read as:

"The weapon used is a weapon that is the service weapon of a deputy", and not:

"At one point, in the past, the weapon used was a service weapon but isn't any longer".

Him using a service weapon implies that there was a lapse of security on his mother's part. That's why it's being mentioned in the way that it is because, if it were true, it would be outrageous.

The fact that an adult Florida man was able to access privately owned firearms isn't news. But making it seem scandalous by implying that he killed people with a weapon issued as the service weapon of an active duty cop gets clicks.

The shotgun story is based on first hand accounts that I've heard from the FSU students that I work with. I'm obviously just a random Internet person, so don't believe it until you see other sources.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Local law enforcement was having a training session very close by. That and the fact the shooter was the son of a Sherrif deputy are the reasons you could hear them blowing themselves over their fast response the whole time. Not that the fucker was putting up all the red flags for fucking years while being heavily involved in local law enforcement and constantly around guns.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Not that the fucker was putting up all the red flags for fucking years while being heavily involved in local law enforcement and constantly around guns.

There is a reason DeSantis & the fascists in the Florida legislature are about to get rid of the red flag laws.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Thoughts and prayers