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[–] [email protected] 90 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The fact that they're asking her to apologize is Just ass backwards.

They should apologize, and look into the issue, and possibly, stop, war profiting.

That's okay. They're going to lose a lot of Windows users, forcing them to upgrade Perfectly good computers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

i agree with what you're saying from an ethical standpoint. i think she's right to protest.

but it's not "an issue", it's a huge fucking client of theirs. from a business standpoint its a huge ask to fire a whole military as a customer.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Surely there's an option between "drop major client" and "punish the person pointing out problems"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Disrupting a meeting like that was always going to end in getting fired.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

It didn't have to. You only expect it to because there's a history of companies being shitty.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Not only will they fire her, they will also be less willing to hire other Palestinians in the future.

I don't know about Microsoft but a FAANG company I worked for had very well documented means of raising ethical or legal issues within the company. She just violated her employment contract and possibly her NDA with the company by doing this.

I don't mean to say she is right/wrong. It is just that she did not follow the guidelines of the company she works for. Therefore she will be fired even if she is right/wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So a choice between money and ethics.
There is never any question which one companies choose.
Certainly not the one with a carreer in scumbaggery.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My point was that there are plenty of other options.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

My point is: not for them

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

"We cant stop selling to war criminals. They are among our biggest customers."

Sounds more like a company that needs to be dismantled and have their leadership face prison sentences. Given the size of Microsoft they could take the hit economically w.o. much hassle. They dont have to be evil. They want to be evil. And we need to punish them for it by boycotting their shit as much as possible.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Can't help but think of this book wrt your comment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wish that were the case. But I doubt most people will ditch Windows. They’ll just pony up for a new computer. They’ll certainly lose some users. But Windows will still remain as top dog, most likely. And I doubt that’ll ever change so long as traditional desktop computers and laptops still exist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Windows isn't the issue here. The war profiteering is coming from the AI and cloud divisions

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ok cool. But I was replying to the comment regarding Microsoft forcing new computers on people. So no need for the correction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm surprised they didn't call her an antisemite.