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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

actually no such thing as fish

ELI22 undergrad degree?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Take "Spider" for example, that is a fairly well definied term for all animals in the order "Araneae". But that doesn't really work for the term "Fish". There a many dozens of completely different orders with thousands of species that are refered to as "Fish". It's a bit like saying "thing that swims in the water".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My 5 year old says "thing that swims in the ocean/lake with exception of mamals is good fish"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

You'll get a lot of squids, seeweed, and all kinds of stuff with that, but not a bad start for a 5 year old. She's way on her way to being a taxonomist :D

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Then an axelotal is a fish,

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

When organizing the big family tree of everything that's alive, you use clades, which means a group that all of the individuals in it have the same common ancestor. E.g. All vertebrates, wether mammals, reptiles, etc, have the same vertebrate ancestor. Mammals also share the same tetrapod ancestor, so they're all tetrapods.

Fish doesn't work like that, because we don't count all the its ancestors as fish (tetrapods have a common bony fish ancestor, for example, but you wouldn't call a parrot a fish). But you know what a fish is. We call this a paraphyletic group.