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A Norwegian man said he was horrified to discover that ChatGPT outputs had falsely accused him of murdering his own children.

According to a complaint filed Thursday by European Union digital rights advocates Noyb, Arve Hjalmar Holmen decided to see what information ChatGPT might provide if a user searched his name. He was shocked when ChatGPT responded with outputs falsely claiming that he was sentenced to 21 years in prison as "a convicted criminal who murdered two of his children and attempted to murder his third son," a Noyb press release said.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah it's sick. it's not AI, but it will destroy the world. I kinda think that's the point of it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

State propaganda works by gaslighting you to think everyone around thinks some way, or at least a select set of people, and that you should adjust your behavior accordingly. It's more complicated, some people are conformists, some are contrarians, but it works, there's their own kind of working trap for everyone.

But it still has efficiency that can be improved.

With LLMs all your interactions are by default through such influence. They are averaging the bullshit, and information produced by them is fed to us all. That's the opposite of what any talented or just useful person does, useful people try to increase the entropy, LLMs kill it.

It's a dream of thieves, bullies, useless people, politicians, that kind of crap.

Basically "Us", "1984" and whatever else has been written is being attempted via this tool. It's not misdirected I think, but I also think it'll fail, because evolution works in shorter feedback loops and those doing such things succeed in them, but fail in other directions which could use energy.

OK, I should stop writing such texts, they repeat, don't help with migraines, they are obvious and probably wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

to clarify: shannon entropy not thermodynamic entropy, which is kind of the opposite?

i hate language sometimes.

I think it will succeed at buying them time to build their doom bunkers without us doing a revolution, and then retreat into them.

they'll die in there. closed systems don't work and these people cannot cope with, much less manage, ecology, but we'll die first. no shortcuts for those lazy good-for-nothing assholes who would rather just skip over the part where the living envy the dead and maybe miss out on human extinction. can't half ass these things.