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An ethics professor at Cambridge talks about teaching ethics in 2025 (lemmy.world)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

and you base that expectation on what?

hopes and dreams?

The reason humans and ants differ so much in morality is because of the difference in the subjective experience of being a person versus being an ant.

this is predicated on a false assumption. you don’t know ants and humans experience different subjective experiences, you just strongly suspect it. knowing =/= suspecting. which is why you follow this illogic down to an incorrect conclusion of your “expectation.”

the greatest challenge of our age is dispelling the victorian myth that knowledge of the real world is untouchable to us. the distinction between you and other does exist, but we are not locked out of the world. we can deduce real facts about things outside our perception.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

and you base that expectation on what?

hopes and dreams?

I'm sorry, what?

this is predicated on a false assumption. you don’t know ants and humans experience different subjective experiences, you just strongly suspect it.

Sure, in the same way I have no knowledge of anything except "I think therefore I am".

If you apply this level of skepticism it's impossible to move beyind solipsism.

You're free to apply that standard, I wouldn't be able to prove knowledge beyond it and then all conversation stops here.

If you'll at least grant me a mutual belief in the external world so we can probe it and collect empirical data we can "pretend" is knowledge then we can build up a more interesting philosophy beyond "I don't believe anything exists at all but me".

knowing =/= suspecting. which is why you follow this illogic down to an incorrect conclusion of your “expectation.”

No, I follow it because out of utility I'd like a more useful philosophy than solipsism.

the greatest challenge of our age is dispelling the victorian myth that knowledge of the real world is untouchable to us.

What? That's literally what you just argued? Now you're trying to dispel it?

the distinction between you and other does exist, but we are not locked out of the world. we can deduce real facts about things outside our perception.

Why should I not respond "this is predicated on a false assumption. you don’t know real facts outside your perception you just strongly suspect it."?

You just flipped your argument around 180 degrees?