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- God is Not Great (Hitchens)
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At this point I assume any massive church leader is guilty until proven innocent. You don't get to the head of a bullshit organization like a megachurch without being a shitbag.
Why does it always have to be kids though. Kids aren't a magical ticket to avoid sinning.
Oh they don't believe in god. The question still stands though.
Why is it always kids?
Kids are easy to manipulate in general. But kids raised in this environment are a predators dream come true.
They are told they are sinners from birth and therefore unlovable outside of god's infinite generosity of murdering his own kid. They are told whatever happens to them is for a reason and doesn't need to "make sense" as it makes sense to god. They are taught never to speak out against "gods anointed" and see everyone around them they trust speak of this pastor figure like they are a god.
Predators like these pastors know there is a low chance they will ever talk. Beyond that they know they will be "forgiven" if they are caught a lot of the time. Thinking of that viral clip a couple of years ago of a pastor being given a standing ovation for "bravely coming forward and confessing sexual sin" [r*ping a 14yr old]
The whole thing is a god damn mess and the sooner we are done with it the better.
My meds ran out and won't be ready for a few hours, so don't read this unless you want pure, uncut ADHD.
That's definitely the biggest reason. One of the other reasons I've seen tossed around (not with mega church pastors, but with the ultra wealthy in general... however I think it applies here) is that a lot of these folks can get any sort of pleasure a person could want, so they start turning more and more towards shit that they aren't supposed to do in order to keep getting that thrill.
So for these folks who think every sort of sex outside of married people face to face is wrong they'll start with adultery (which is only wrong because you made a monogamous commitment in the real world, but it's a huge deal in their world), perhaps a few threesomes (nothing wrong with that, but they like the taboo nature of it), then move on to some light homosexual liaisons (again, nothing actually wrong here), then orgies (still nothing wrong unless you're puritanical). Then pretty soon they're banging kids and shoving cocaine up their pee holes. They're not doing it because they're attracted to kids, they're doing it because it feels like power.
It's a different path than the ultra wealthy that ends in the same place a lot of times. Look at the number of people who rode the Lolita Express. If you told me they found an island where the "elite" were hunting people for sport then eating them I wouldn't be surprised. Because that power feeling is just like a really good drug.
Add to that your very well thought out reasons and that kids are small and can't really put up a good fight and you've got a recipe for kiddy diddling.
This also applies to a lot of people who seek power over whatever sad little fiefdom they can. HOA presidents don't have the access to children that mega churches and the rich have, so they wield the power they have to show the folks in the neighborhood who the boss is.
In the end the why doesn't matter. Raping children is wrong and those found guilty should be hung in the town square.
Well, if you wanted to SA kids, founding a mega church would facilitate that goal by supplying you with a steady supply and naive gullible parents to trust you with them. Plus, who doesn't like aggrandizing and enriching oneself by collecting tithes?
you don't and can't know that.
Just because their awful people and bad christians doesn't make them not-christians. it makes they shitty people and shitty christians. Remember, according to their scriptures, the only necessary quality is to attain a state of grace by reciting a magical incantation. That's it.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted. Hell, the dad of one of my classmates on HS, also a Christian priest, would beat, torment and even rape his wife when enraged, and would flagellate his back bloody as a sign of contrition to her and their god.
Few weeks would pass, and she would make "one mistake", and the cycle of violence would begin again. Hell, I only know this because he ran away and stayed at my house for a few weeks, until his mom finally presented charges and got him out of the house.
Being a piece of shit rapist and a true believer Christian are not mutually exclusive.
True, but the topic here is about mega churches and their pastors.
Did you mean MAGA churches? /s