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Found this notification this morning on my pixel 6.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

So if Mozilla wants to monetize location data, what does this mean for all the custom ROMs that use Mozilla's location provider instead of Google's?

This might mean that we would have no true free location provider left.

Edit: just was thinking, what does this mean for Firefox forks that also use Mozilla's location service?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

No custom ROM use MLS anymore. It was shut down a few years ago.

Anyway, in general, apps get their location data from Play Services.

Apps that don't use Play Services get data from the default provider, which is always Google.

The successor of MLS is BeaconDB.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So if Mozilla wants to monetize location data, what does this mean for all the custom ROMs that use Mozilla's location provider instead of Google's?

Nothing, because they dont sell location data, this just seems like a routine warning that pops up when ToS and Privacy policy changes, and since they have clarified their position on this matter, (not to mention the lack of alternative FOSS web engines). We really shouldn't let this bother us

Of course i might be wrong and it may come out that Mozilla has turned heel(lot of heel turning happening lately)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

wait, mozilla has a location provider? maybe there is open street map, idk what's the difference between a map and a location provider

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My (probably incomplete) understanding is: phones have a GNSS chip (such as GPS, Galileo, or Glonass), but getting location from that takes a long time and a lot of battery. So they estimate location based on other information such as what cell tower they are connected to and the list of available wi-fi networks. This requires a database with all that info, which Google built through its Street View cars.

So the location provider is a service to which your phone sends all the info it has and which replies with an estimate of your location; which means it handles a lot of sensitive data.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

ooh does openstreetmap have a location viewer? it would be better for privacy than mozzila and google

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Nah, open street maps is part of an open source map initiative with Meta and Microsoft, we're safe there....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

so it's not an alternative

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Fork it, split it off, share it.