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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

When was the last time wealthy stopped getting wealthier faster than the rest of society? 70s? That’s about how long wealthy have been systemically preferred over everyone else.

You might say GDP grows but this is what’s underneath:

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

When was the last time wealthy stopped getting wealthier?

This isn't even a problem. You should strive for increasing quality of life for everyone rather than some idealistic notion of equality. People aren't equal, period. Some have great ability to run business or produce goods, others don't. Inequality is inevitable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Money is your vote on what the society should produce. Income inequality actually fucks over everyone except the wealthiest. That's why everyone is bombarded with ads for luxury items. While housing, food, and medicine is becoming more unobtainable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That’s very reductive and convenient for the wealthy. It will be convenient until we reach wealth inequality that US just reached. What they have now is about same as 30s Germany and 90s Rwanda. This alarms me but it doesn’t alarm you so I must assume you’re fine with the outcome.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What they have now is about same as 30s Germany and 90s Rwanda

I don't know much about Rwanda, but I can tell that claim "Ineqaulity caused Hitler" is pretty much wrong. You're trying to say, that the people fed up by the inequality between elites and the poor voted Hitler into power, but that's not what happened. It was the majority party SPD - German Social-Democrats - who put him in the chancellor position. Nazis had something around 20% and two biggest parties were Social Democrats and Communists.

I'm constantly amazed that these events are given so little time in the history classes in schools.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

So you’re saying historically it was the moderates or centrists that enabled fascism? Fully agreed but that’s just one more case in point that we should be changing course.