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[–] [email protected] 158 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Mask up. Leave your phones at home. Break shit.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

They won't. They couldn't even get upset over kids being massacred every week in their schools. They are a broken people. Have been for decades. Their military.and economy didn't fail. Their moral fiber did. They substituted thoughts and prayers and other virtue signalling for community organisation and direct action.

If you think I am wrong then don't reply. Go outside and prove it. Nobody gives a shit what people write in social media. It means nothing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago

Gimme a break, I don't expect you to know everything that goes on here, just as all I "know" about Australia is "you" made Murdoch, continue to abuse native people just like us, and dingos regularly eat babies. Like asserting that no Australian people care about those issues is wrong and obviously my fundamental understanding of the country is flawed, it's also wrongheaded to assert the American people are all broken and spineless for years and have bad moral fiber (I'll assume this is a normal saying for y'all elsewhere, but that sounds like a nationalistic dog whistle to my ears).

It is especially bizarre to claim that Americans are incapable of direct action a few years after the country had some pretty explosive sustained protests against police violence and racism. The US is filled with broken people, yes, but not because of some nebulous moral failing, and it's the broken government you have an issue with, not the poor fools who were born here.

Looking to the mentioned protests a few years back might explain the lack of similar reaction now. They burned youth prisons, occupied police stations, ran for office, took to the streets, were shot at, gassed, and went to jail. For what? Nothing changed endured, the establishment "left" abandoned the movement and helped undo any change that occured, the government clamped down harder on dissent, and Trump got reelected. Maybe the methods of resistance have to change to succeed, you cant keep fighting the war of yesterday and expect to win after all, and you sure don't have to publicize your actions for online strangers to check your moral fiber.

Posting may be meaningless, but I'd say all this to your face if we were talking in person too. Communication is how we change and change minds, and leaving nonsense unchallenged is how we got into this mess in the first place, and I won't make that mistake here or in my non digital life.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Lots of us are mad and just don't know what to do. One at a time we get arrested or shot. It takes a group effort but nothing has crystallized yet.

I got two kids under 4, I'm not lining up to get my ticket punched just to get the ball rolling.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Exactly. In Ukraine parents fight and die so their 4 year old will have a country to return to. In the US they let their souls die instead and leave their kids to fight their own battles.

You are a nation of Uvalde cops.

Downvote me. Argue. In your hearts you all know it is true. You are broken. You were clearly broken since at least the 90s when you met Columbine with platitudes instead of tens of millions of mothers on the streets screaming in pain.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not going to downvote you. Suggest an action.

Edit: And inspire us by what you are doing besides flaming on the Internet. I'm sure you must be doing something, rather than standing by passing the buck? Right?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Thankfully I live in a rich liberal democracy where over 90% vote and we still have a fairly decent though far from perfect society.

I can be outraged by what Americans let happen to their country because I'm human and a parent but I can't help and shouldn't help. American society needs to find its own solutions, in its own time and on terms it can live with.

You can't pass this off onto me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Assuming you are actually aussie you understand how fucked you are too right?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

In no way am I trying to pass the buck, but it's easy to do nothing and bitch on the Internet. It's a lot harder to be the first one to do something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, but I think you and those like you are deflecting. I still see posts from Americans saying this wasn't us. We are nice people. We have no power. It is crazy. Why are you even online telling us this? You think we blame you personally?

I live in the other side of the planet. If I am going to help anyone its going to be some poor unfortunate struggling with poverty, war and genocide imposed on them.

Not delusional people from the richest country on earth who had everything and lack the will to influence their own fate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

You don't have to apologize it sucks for us as much or more than it sucks for you.

It's easy to gripe on the Internet for anybody and it's much harder to act. In a country like the US, where do you even start? It is huge, the military has more money than god, and the police force is by and large the little brother of the military but with way less oversight and more dysfunction. You want to stop a city once? Sure, np big deal. You want to bring this country to heel? That takes coordination.

It's really easy to talk if you are in western Europe where your country is the size of one middle of the road US state and you've got 8 months of vacation a year. Same if your country has like 8 cities total because basically 3/4 of your nation/continent is uninhabitable. You do not share the same problems of scale. Period. At all. I could go out tomorrow and get killed for no reason, but what purpose does that serve?

I'm glad you have a good view from your high horse. Consider doing something more than watch, because you know what? You could be next. I'm here asking for tips and tricks and you're in AUS looking down your nose while you suck your own dick. Real cool man.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Here's an idea: Try to push a #OccupyBillionaires or #OccupyMansions movement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

And if people think they are alone and have no power perhaps consider reading books about Abolishionists, Underground Railroad, Suffragettes, Labour Unions, Socialists, the Civil Rights Movement, Gay rights, Anti-war protests, Environmentalists and all the other ordinary Americans who made a fucking effort and delivered real improvements to peoples every day lives while the thoughts and prayers brigade wasted the last decade taking selfies and lamenting their disenfranchisement on social media. The template is there. Just read a fucking book.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

You're spot on... I might argue that that moral fiber has pretty much never existed. But do you have any insight on how one even begins to restore that moral fiber?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Leave your ID at home too.... Just saying.

[–] potoo22 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Bruh, they catch me without proof of citizenship, I'm getting deported.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

But where will they deport you to?

Ehhh? Checkmate ICE.