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Mozilla is already revising its new Firefox terms to clarify how it handles user data (www.theverge.com)
submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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  • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
  • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
  • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
  • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
  • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
  • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The issue is that Mozilla is actively hiding these settings. There's one (I forgot which one) that you can't find by searching for the title in the FF settings, you have to scroll to it yourself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The issue is that Mozilla is actively hiding these settings.

They are under "Privacy", just as I expected where they would.

There’s one (I forgot which one) that you can’t find by searching for the title in the FF settings, you have to scroll to it yourself.

🤷

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, you can disable the settings that are exposed to you with a checkbox. How about all the other that have no checkboxes and you can find by snooping around in either the code or about:config ?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How about all the other that have no checkboxes and you can find by snooping around in either the code or about:config ?

Which are? Genuine question. I'm not aware of those either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Someone else in this thread mentioned that going to about:config and typing telemetry will apparently show that some things are still set to true despite unchecking the settings in the Privacy section.

Note: I'm not the guy you originally replied to, and I haven't personally tested this. Just pointing out where you can allegedly find those settings if you're interested. (I personally don't care and think this whole thing is overblown by the community, for what it's worth)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago

I'm not going to enumerate them, mostly because I did not keep track of which one was on and which one was off before messing all of them up. If you're curious, open "about:config" and search for "survey*.enabled", "collect*.enabled". Even with all settings disabled, some of them remains on, and they do cause traffic to the (documented) endpoints.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dude, I'm not talking about the specific settings you've shown. There's more settings you should set regarding privacy, and (at least a couple of months ago) one of them wasn't appearing when searching for it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

There’s more settings you should set regarding privacy

Please be more specific.