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Murena, the French privacy firm that’s forked Android to deliver so-called deGoogled smartphones, has repeated the trick with a tablet. So if you’re keen to get your hands on a shiny Pixel Tablet — but without the usual bundle of Google apps and services — Murena has you covered.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

You just paying a third party to install the rom for you.

For some people that has value. For security people they should reinstall the ROM anyway to know what is really installed.

They install eos, but you could also install gos.

[–] onlinepersona 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's a way to fund development and make it possible for the masses to buy deGoogled. Not everybody knows how to install a ROM nor wants to take the time to learn. Even if it took a minute, they wouldn't. That's why this is a good initiative "wanna degoogle, just buy degoogled - no fuss, no muss".

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Bingo, right now I don't have a pc at all. If I wanted a degoogled tablet I would have to buy a pc and then learn how to do everything. If I only wanted a tablet that would be a lot of time and money just to get a degoogled device.

[–] xtools 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

aww c'mon surely you know at least one person who has a laptop and would lend it to you for 20min

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If I wanted a degoogled tablet I would have to buy a pc

GrapheneOS can be installed using an Android device

https://grapheneos.org/install/web

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So I can degoogle a device using a google device? That’s cool

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yep! You can use a Google device to degoogle a Google device, and then go back and use that newly degoogled device to degoogle that first Google device.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I buy your second idea. Not sure how this funds development.

[–] onlinepersona 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You pay a premium to have Murena/eOS/whatever it's called to be installed on your device when you buy it. totalPrice = phonePrice + $degoogledROMInstallationPrice. Installing the ROM can be done manually or automatically. If done automatically, the money left over is paid to developers. The more phones bought with pre-installed, deGoogled ROMs, the more money goes to developers/development.

If the devices are bought in bulk, they will probably cost less to Murena than what the consumer pays e.g phonePrice = originalPrice - bulkSavings. Those savings can be passed on to development or whatever else Murena needs to fund.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't find anything like that on their website. Not to mention they're pushing their own centralized cloud service.

I looked at their faq, I looked at their mission statement, I looked at their about us, nothing talks about sending money to EOS

[–] onlinepersona 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

On that page it says nothing about funds flowing from the phone sale to eOS.

Where did you get your original data to make the claim?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

For most people it has value.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

but you could also install gos

No you can't, since the (overpriced btw) device they're selling you is far from meeting Graphene's hardware security requirements. You're much better off getting a (preferably used) Pixel Tablet and installing GOS yourself. It's very easy and maybe takes 10 minutes. And it's definitely a million times more secure and private. Murena or /e/OS is a scam.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pixel Tablet

Is literally listed as a supported device on the page you just linked to

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

My bad, I didn't even notice this. I thought they had some custom insecure hardware like with their phones. I just checked, and they don't even appear to be selling those anymore?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

I mean their custom phone hardware. I can't find those devices anywhere on their site anymore? But they definitely used to sell them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hJ-1243pzE