this post was submitted on 19 Feb 2025
1106 points (99.0% liked)
YUROP
1606 readers
107 users here now
A laid back community for good news, pictures and general discussions among people living in Europe.
Other European communities
Other casual communities:
Language communities
Cities
Countries
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- https://feddit.dk
- [email protected] / [email protected]
- [email protected]
- https://lemmy.eus/
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- https://foros.fediverso.gal/
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- Italy: [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- Poland: [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I am sympathetic to the argument that NATO expansion and the coup started this war.
But blaming Ukraine is absurd. They're the victims of NATO expansion and the coup!
I wonder why countries bordering Russia want to join NATO
After what NATO did to Libya you might wonder why Russia doesn't trust NATO.
NATO didn't intervene in Lybia, it were just some NATO aligned countries.
If NATO did intervene, it would have included ALL NATO countries. As is the point of their pact. If one is at war, they all combine forces.
Since plenty of NATO countries abstained, it is therefore no NATO intervention.
But you rather spew Russian disinformation, don't you?
Not sure who asked them to.
And how did it turn out?
How did what turn out?
NATO's intervention in Libya? Things haven't been great for them, if you haven't noticed.
What does NATO's intervention in Libya have to do with countries bordering Russia wanting to join NATO?
NATO intervention in Libya was not defensive, which means NATO is a security threat. Surely you see that?
And what are you saying in relation to countries bordering Russia wanting to join NATO? Like what point are you making here?
That NATO is not purely defensive and NATO encirclement of Russia is a security risk to Russia? That seems very obvious.
And Russia is a security risk to its neighbors. It's the reason why their neighbors want to join.
Nato expansion has always sounded dumb to me too. Nato is a defense pact, it doesn't ever attack so there is nothing for Russia to defend against. And if some countries were to attack Russia, them being in Nato is irrelevant since the other members won't help.
Russia is the only European country that violates others borders. Everyone else agreed that wars are dumb and joined a peaceful union called the 'EU' or at least has close ties with it. Now Russia of course could have joined the EU too, but Putin chose not to.
NATO bombed Libya.
NATO didn’t intervene in Lybia, it were just some NATO aligned countries.
If NATO did intervene, it would have included ALL NATO countries. As is the point of their pact. If one is at war, they all combine forces.
Since plenty of NATO countries abstained, it is therefore no NATO intervention.