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Good thing they won't need to bring back a bunch of groceries.
Americans are the only creatures who don't understand the concept of a grocery basket outside of a car
Most Americans buy a lot of groceries at once because most Americans don't have quick access to grocery stores, and buying smaller portions of groceries costs a fortune.
I can buy a week's worth of groceries for a family of 4 for about the price of 10 days of groceries for one person. But it requires being able to haul a lot more than can fit on a bike. And for many of us, the store is also a long way away with no public transit and in a place where the temperature may be lethally hot for months at a time.
sounds like hell
I tried saying "bippity bopping boo" just now, but it didn't move my house 20 miles closer to the grocery store.
man, it's so wild hearing that the nearest grocery store is 20 miles away. You guys have created unnecessary problems for yourself. It's so shocking how rough you guys have it and how non-chalant you are about something which is a no-brainer for the rest of the world.
never seen more chumpier chumps than Americans.
Believe it or not, not everyone lives in dense urban areas or the suburbs.
And the scale of the US isn't something most Europeans understand. How long does it take you drive across your country? In the US, a drive from Southern California to Maine is over 48 hours and around 5000 kilometers.
The Texas Triangle megalopolis (Houston, Dallas, San Antonio) is bigger than lots of European countries.
oh this tired argument again!
You don't drive across the country daily do you? How long does it take to drive across the country? that's irrelevant.
the whole of zoning and design of US is bad.
You can't bring this up when the argument is how far is your local grocery store is to your house. Unless you drive cross country for your groceries!
"Not everyone lives in dense urban areas or suburbs"
Your argument is "that's how it has always been and we have to solve around it" when the solution is to not to have it that way.
the US is hopelessly into spread out development. There's no solving your way out of having to drive 10 minutes to get groceries without substantial changes to mindset and zoning policies. It's so absurd!
It's not zoning.
It's when places developed. The super spread-out metroplexes of the US are in areas that developed after the invention of the automobile.
Europe isn't more enlightened when it comes to development. They're just older. Cities tend to develop around most people living within an hour of where they work. When the US urbanized, that was a much larger area due to technological advancements. Rolling that back is almost impossible.
america used to develop for density. Go read the book "Strong towns" to understand how. Technological development alone doesn't explain the car-centric development. There was active lobbying and dismantling of alternative methods of construction and zoning just to support automobiles.
Americans have been brainwashed into accepting there is no solution to a problem that was introduced by car makers in the 1960s. American cities were dense and had lots of alternate modes of transit before all of it was ripped out under the guise of technological "development" and "freedom"