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[–] [email protected] 152 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

"Sideloading" isn't an actual thing. It's a word the industry made up to make installing your own software sound dangerous.

All traditional Windows applications were "sideloaded" and back then it was just fucking called installing an application.

Prior to the bullshit ass Microsoft Store, sideloading was literally the only way to get shit on Windows.

Linux also always allowed you to install applications directly. Everyone just uses package management software at this point because it's all well managed and easier to keep things updated, but you can still install things manually with make.

If this leads more people to understand that "sideloading" is some contrived boogeyman bullshit for just being allowed to install what you want on the device you fucking own that's a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I also felt like the author of the article ignorantly weaponized the name to make something completely mundane sound like a bad thing. They totally stomped right into the corporate moustrap while doing so. Why not call all app stores something like "corporate single source installation" or "[Microsoft/google/apple] assisted installation"? Maybe someone will write an article on the dangers of that.

Also, I don't give a shit about TikTok. I just don't like the fact that everything is capitalized on to make the world a shittier place so someone can collect a few extra gold coins.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a traditional Mac user I also “side loaded” applications

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a recent modern Mac user, this experience is so bizarre and is always a little different.

I grew up on macs (thanks mom) and built a PC as soon as I had my first real job in highschool. I recently bought a MacBook for the promise of battery life and cool running. If only it was easier to get my arm windows laptop to boot Linux...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Back in the 80s and 90s it was a lot like installing software on Windows except you’d drag the application to where you wanted it instead of doing a:\setup.exe

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sideloading doesn't sound dangerous, if anything it sounds cool lol

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It sounds cool because it sounds dangerous

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Hell yeah. Lemme put on my hacker glasses and sideload some shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I guess you've convinced me to sideload and smoke cigarettes.

I'm going to be so fucking cool.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Linux also always allowed you to install applications directly. Everyone just uses package management software at this point because it's all well managed and easier to keep things updated, but you can still install things manually with make.

You only need make if you're compiling. Installating precompiled software is somewhat easier, since it's basically just copying to /bin. If you know where that is, then it's simple.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

make install typically also handles copying things like libraries, shared assets, and docs as needed, but yeah precompiled software is usually a tar... or loading a downloaded package file into the package manager.

[–] PoolloverNathan 3 points 1 week ago

There's even .deb, .rpm, flakes, whatever pacman uses, … that are just package files that copy to /bin/ for you, like .apk/.ipas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's a word the industry made up to make installing your own software sound dangerous.

[citation needed]

Prior to the bullshit ass Microsoft Store, sideloading was literally the only way to get shit on Windows.

Yeah, I mean that made sense when it was the only way. There was no need to differentiate. That's not the case anymore.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The term "sideloading" has been around since the 90s. Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sideloading

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

The term "sideload" was coined in the late 1990s by online storage service i-drive as an alternative means of transferring and storing computer files virtually instead of physically.

Sounds like it was something very different back then...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ulrich!

now you are lars ulrich. How many ulrichs can you be?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Oh merde! You caught me!