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Time to get serious with E2E encrypted messaging (techcrunch.com)
submitted 11 hours ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I currently use Telegram for my friends and family, but have reluctantly come to the conclusion that the UK Government is either reaching agreement for backdoors with messaging services, or is trying its hardest to.

I'm also on Element/Matrix. Before I try to get my contacts to join me on there, should I be aware of any privacy issues or is that a good place to head?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I’ve honestly found signal better than matrix.

Matrix is just not there yet in terms of features UI etc and is less private than signal because it collects way more metadata and stuff. I know the idea of federation is cool, but Signal works better for the privacy aspect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

I'm using simplex :3

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The downside of Signal is that it's centralized, and thus at the whim of those who run it. Structurally, it's not really different from Whatsapp or Telegram except for who owns it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago

I don't think that's a fair comparison, simply because their structures are quite different. Signal is FOSS run by a 501(c)3 non-profit, whereas Whatsapp is obviously run by Meta and data mines its users; Telegram is also a nonprofit, but privacy was never their goal or mission.

They're all centralized, which I agree is a negative, but if something must be centralized, being run by a nonprofit foundation whose mission is privacy and E2EE is about the best option you could hope for in that scenario.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting—I feel like I see Matrix touted as more private than Signal b/c of Signal's phone number requirement. What compromising metadata does Matrix require that Signal does not?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago

Sorry I’ll let someone more knowledgeable answer about metadata, but signal does allow you to set a username and hide your phone number (so people add you with username instead if f number)