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Thanks for your comment. I agree with some of your points, but I really don't understand why we should use JS frameworks for everything and render pages on the client’s device. I'm not against JavaScript, but no website should be made entirely of it.
A few years ago, I came across a Chinese e-commerce site where the product page falsely displayed an "out of stock" message until the website fully loaded. Imagine how many people left the page, thinking the product wasn’t available. This issue wouldn't exist with server-side rendering.
Regarding companies that prioritize users with newer devices, this approach may not be economically beneficial and feels deceptive to users. If they don’t want users with older devices, they should clearly state it on their website by checking the user agent. Amazon.com works even without JavaScript and runs smoothly on all devices. Any company serious about its profits should prioritize user experience, and making a webpage lightweight is one of the best ways to achieve that. It seems like these JS frameworks and their modules aren't really about improving user experience. What's even more concerning is that many newcomers to programming rely on these frameworks without understanding basic HTML or JavaScript.
There are many older people who still use their old laptops, and buying newer models makes it harder for them to adapt. Throwing out older devices increases e-waste. This makes the behavior of big tech companies seem hypocritical—like Apple, which stopped including chargers with new iPhones while claiming to be environmentally friendly.
Back in 2011, we could use YouTube on our laptops without any issues. So why not make older versions available for older devices? I understand that companies want to block bots, but if that’s the goal, why allow old device user agents to access the site in the first place? If they assume all older devices are potential bots but still want users from those devices, why not provide an older frontend for signed-in users?
I'm sorry for the rant, but this is how I feel about modern web development.