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Just be precise, watch out for the 'little guy'. It's not sane US citizens doing this. We're experiencing a coup over here, neighbor. And the sane ones are trying to figure out how to get back to being good neighbors, and stop the corporate coup. srsly.
At some point we need to hit their pocket too.
33% of American didn't even bother to show up and vote. They're complicit in this, and they deserve the pinch to wake the fuck up as to what their country is doing.
And if that's not enough, well.... the sane ones might need to get off their ass and start doing something about the rampant assholes running around shitting on everyone.
Lol, I did vote for all the good it did. I'm no more complicit in the actions of Trump's administration than any run-of-the-mill Russian civilian is for the actual land war being waged by their government.
Me, you, and all the other little guys worldwide, we are being punked by global oligarchy.
Speaking of turnout, Ontario has an election coming up. Last time, Doug Ford (Conservative) was voted back in with a turnout of 43%. So about 57% of Ontarians didn't bother to take a few minutes to vote. And now our healthcare and education systems are being dismantled for the sake of profit. Maybe on February 27th we can get a slightly less shameful turnout and vote for someone who will actually stand up for Ontario's public services and stand up against the USA's bullying and threats?
The biggest problem is the "wake-up" isn't going to be in favor of reality. All blame is going to fall on the people working hardest to actually make effective change. There is far too much propaganda and yellow journalism in the US for that hurt to be directed in the right way.
It's much easier to direct an angry mob with simple lies than complex truth.
You hit the nail right on the head.
As a person who lives in the U.S., the corporate ownership of the media is a huge problem. Pair that with the larger social media companies all censoring content now, and there’s no sense of ‘reality’ here anymore.
There are protests happening in major American cities, and they are only being covered by the local media of those cities, and their reach stymied online. It’s clear to me that the media is intentionally downplaying anti-Trump sentiment.
The same thing happened with the Iraq war protests both before and after Bush invaded. Massive protests in all the big cities and smaller ones in the small cities, all but ignored by the media. They only mentioned in passing that there even were protests--no footage, no live reports, just crickets. This has been going on with the media for well over 25 years. It all started going to hell after Reagan revoked the Fairness Doctrine. You can trace pretty much everything that's led to the downfall of this country back to Reagan.
Everything you said is right. But a reminder for everyone scrolling that the CBC did NOT try to erase the 2003 World Says No To War protests:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/millions-say-no-to-war-in-iraq-1.411411
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canadians-join-global-peace-rally-1.397326
"There's no question Canadians are beginning to become worried and fearful," NDP leader Jack Layton said in Toronto. "But more and more of them expressing their views like this opens up the door to some hope."
Got any stories about that? I mean local edia still has websites.
Great, sure, and I'm in the 33% that said, and is saying "hell to the power of fuck NO".
Edit: By which I mean I voted against the current shitshow. Sometimes my engrish is unclear. ;-)
There is evidence that voter suppression + not counting/disqualifying forced provisional votes created Trump victory.
Why don't we bring our skills together in a massive co-op that pays us fairly, that starts to compete with these mega corporations
With all due respect, and I’m sorry to those who voted Kamala, this is our only option.
The only way Canada succeeds is when the American people are hurting enough that they push for change from the inside.
I’m very sorry to small honest US companies, but we don’t have the luxury of choice or leniency on this matter anymore.
Also this is the second time Trump has been elected. Whatever excuses people have, I can’t look at this as a one off or crazy event. I have to see this as the future of American diplomacy and how we can expect to be treated.
As an American, I hope you all please keep doing what you’re doing. Most U.S. citizens may be too chicken shit to say or do anything (yet), but witnessing solidarity among Canadians who refuse to stand down gives me hope.
As soon as the election was called, I knew my life would be fucked. The U.S. oligarchs think they’re beyond reproach because spineless U.S. citizens aren’t doing anything besides lick boot. The rest of us, feeling trapped and powerless, feel supported by this type of news. Do what you must.
tRump is not an aberration, the world is now seeing the USA with the mask dropped. Oligarchy is baked into the U.S. constitution, rich white males have ALWAYS held the power there, despite all the window dressing and PR campaigns. The county was founded on genocide, built on slavery and imperialism, they burned women at the stake for fuck's sake. The slogan "Kill a Commie for Christ" is not just a bumper sticker for half of them, but a bucket list item.
Who would have thought you where founded by rich white men who didn't want to pay taxes and your still ruled by them. I know you have fairy tales to tell you otherwise but....
Let's not get too high-and-mighty though.
For just one example, the reason BC's old growth forests are something like 98% gone today is because a bunch of rich old white men sold off most of the forest-bearing land to... themselves and their friends. Canada had (and has) its own oligarch infestation.
They had to lay on the fairy tales quite thickly to get the proles to fight their war for them.
American exceptionalism and manifest destiny never went away.
They have been part of the American psyche for generations.
Trump won a majority, and the GOP won the house and senate. It's not all US citizens, but if it's not a majority, it's close enough. Is it really a coup if it's what the majority wanted?
This is hardly a new thing for the US. The world has seen the US elect Bush Jr, who alienated the world with his desire to invade Iraq. Remember Freedom Fries? At the same time that was going on, Canada, which did support the US when it invaded Afghanistan, said that Iraq was a bridge too far, and refused to participate in that. The result was the GOP drumming up anti-Canada hate, people boycotting Canadian products, etc. Then in the years since Bush, the US has elected Trump not once but twice. This is who you guys are now.
And have been for some time. That's why it's frustrating to see all the posts from people who think if Democrats would just move to the left, they'd win. I'm sorry but no. No, they wouldn't. It's frustrating because the right/conservative majority isn't that large. Maaaybe if we didn't have the electoral college, there would be some shifting to the left, but it wouldn't be as much as the left thinks it would be. (braces for downvotes)
It's not really so much about the party moving "left" as much as them not appealing to their base or representing their constituents' ideals. Kamala was asked if she'd done anything differently than Biden and she said no. When most Americans are facing economic uncertainty, that's about the worst thing you can possibly say. People vote for change and they weren't willing to sell that. They too went on TV and said the economy is great because of the stock market.
The party has no teeth, they're not willing to talk about major issues like economic inequality because they too have to bend the knee to the oligarchs. Bernie had the right idea by fundraising on grassroots but the party seems to think they can keep toeing the middle and appeal to the "moderate Democrat" which simply doesn't exist.
Tru.p won a majority of who showed up.
More effort on the political right was spent on making voting more difficult and driving voter apathy ("Genocide Joe") than on getting people to vote for Trump, because Trump.would never win if everyone showed up.
He's the only President to never reach 50% approval ratings. He's objectively the least-popular President in US History. The only way to get him back into office was to reduce voter turnout.
If you didn't show up you supported the winner. End of story, show up or get lumped in with the winner.
Read this
This is far far worse than Junior or Trump's first term. Elon Musk has taken control of three important government agencies including the Treasury. People gotta wake up, it's really bad and we're two weeks in.
It's a catastrophe.
Yep!
Nope, respectfully I disagree. It isn't who I am, and it isn't who anyone I associate with is. Have you ever considered that First Past The Post voting is incredibly problematic?
Yeah, FPTP sucks, but pretending "this isn't who we are" is just sticking your head in the sand. If it isn't who you are, you should probably move to a country that better reflects your values.
This is right wing rhetoric.
'If you don't like it, then leave' is a nationalistic approach that is unhealthy for a country and it's people. It's also inherently ableist as it assumes that anyone who doesn't want to be somewhere has the means to be able to leave easily.
Pretending an entire nation of people support the presiding leader is also pretty naive and would likely get you flamed if you said it about other hot button countries such as Russia, China, Palestine, Israel, Iran, or any of the multitudes of countries that have problematic leadership.
I notice that people don't blame the citizens of most countries with despotic leaders for their government's bad behavior, but they do blame Americans, assuming that the US is a true democracy. It isn't and never has been. Yet we do have a bit more control than many of those other countries, but it takes massive action by a large majority over a long time, to change anything.
As a fellow American, I hate to say it, but them’s the breaks. Plenty of Russians suffer under sanctions for a war they had nothing to do with. Even though it’s not our fault as we weren’t Trump supporters, we’re in his stupid boat and will pay the price. It sucks.
I'm one of the sane Americans and honestly screw this whole, "think of the children" crap. America as a whole voted for Idiocracy by voting in not just Trump but all of these damn moron, spineless Republicans and yeah Americans, all of us, deserve all of this. That's how democracy works unfortunately.
Honestly, unless you're out there protesting like it's Ferguson every day, you're not doing anything to actively to push back on the insanity so yeah, you deserve it too, just like I do with just working to keep surviving this blossoming dictatorship.
I mean they voted for the cou. So yes it is Americans doing this. And I don't care if they didn't vote for this crowd they didn't show up so yes they voted for this.