General Discussion

My interpretations of the Bible are as useful as my interpretations of any other fantasy series. Just because something has a deeper meaning doesn't mean it is useful, correct, or should be followed. Every episode of South Park ends with what lessons they learned. It's also more up to date and in tune with the realities of the world around it. The reason people don't worship South Park is because they haven't been systematically brainwashed to do so.

How I know this: god told me so

The Bible's track of history is unique in that it doesn't just show when the people written about did good, it also shows when they did bad. David was good, until he got into that affair with Bathsheba, and indirectly got her husband killed in battle. He was called out on that part by a prophet speaking in behalf of God, and the only reason he lived was that he repented, but he still lost their first child because of it.

Solomon was the king with a thousand wives. He asked God for smarts when presented with an option to ask for anything and be granted it, and he was granted that and more for thinking spiritually and not materially, but then he started getting into the whole wives and concubines thing. Another example of "started out good, but then got sucked into doing bad", as he was given advance prophecy that Israel would be broken into pieces over this. Which happened when his son took over and made things worse.

Sure, their fundamentalist, militant beliefs are not rooted in any intelligent reading of their scripture, but, in my opinion, just like humans can not evolve out of our ancestry (humans are apes, are monkeys, are primates, are mammals, are chordates) movements cannot escape the roots of their religion. And they constitute a vast, but for it's size relatively homogeneous, culturally distinct sect of Christianity. So let's not create a "true scotsman" here, just because they don't abide by your (or my) interpretation of their faith doesn't mean they aren't Christians, similar differences in belief exist in many religious sects in many different religions. And at least they violently "claim" to be Christians and will defend that position with vigor. Something apparent in all the big american sects that, from the outside, seeem to have little to nothing to do with the teachings in the New Testament. Like Mormonism.

Just like Christianity, Judaism and Islam are still abrahamic religions, those new american sects will always remain christian in their roots.

For this sect, Christian trappings have fused with the American Civil Religion, the Red Scare and the "Lost Cause"-myth. In this worldview, the defeat in a holy war (American Civil War) facilitated the struggle between evil, socialist, secular, globalist, minority-loving, weak liberalism and the good, pious, capitalist, nationalist, exceptionalist, (mostly white) red-blooded conservatism.

This might actually constitute a new kind of religion, but it is heavily blanketed in pseudo-christian trappings and lots of old-testament fire and brimstone. And this mind-virus relies on the widespread christian beliefs in the US to spread into new hosts. A lack of (objective, comparative) religious education with, at the same time, a deeply religious habitat is the fertile ground that allows this to spread. What you or me would interpret as a "correct" (or "less wrong") christian faith, if followed culturally or blindly and without haven given it enough thought, actually aides in the spread of this militant, nationalistic, chauvinist movement that has infected the US and is (imho) at the root of Reaganism, the Tea-Party and the entire Maga-Movement. It has been mutating and getting more malignant for a while now and I honestly have no idea how this could ever be excised from the US.

Many of them could pretty accurately be called Mammonites.

American with christian characteristics?