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DeepSeek AI raises national security concerns, U.S. officials say (www.cbsnews.com)
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Summary:

The launch of Chinese AI application DeepSeek in the U.S. has raised national security concerns among officials, lawmakers, and cybersecurity experts. The app quickly became the most downloaded on Apple's store, disrupting Wall Street and causing a record 17% drop in Nvidia's stock. The White House announced an investigation into the potential risks, with some lawmakers calling for stricter export controls to prevent China from leveraging U.S. technology.

Beyond economic impact, experts warn DeepSeek may pose significant data security risks, as Chinese law allows government access to company-held data. Unlike TikTok, which stores U.S. data on Oracle servers, DeepSeek operates directly from China, collecting personal user information. The app also exhibits censorship, blocking content on politically sensitive topics like Tiananmen Square. Some analysts argue that, as an open-source model, DeepSeek may not be as concerning as TikTok, but critics worry its widespread adoption could advance China’s influence through curated information control.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not here to discuss the validity of Tiananmen Square, that was just the example I keep seeing used.

Why does it matter if one source doesn't provide the official CIA story? You can look up how America views that event anywhere.

How is that censorship any worse than US tech companies blocking you from being able to say the word "Republican" in a negative context?

Also, you left out the most important part "without a little effort." Deepseek will happily tell you anything you want about Tiananmen Square from any perspective you ask it with a little creative prompting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I only commented because you said something stupid about Tiananmen Square that chapped my hide. The rest of it is fine. I'm only responding again because you doubled-down. The CIA version? I was alive at the time and followed the news, including live TV reporting, for days.

Say what you want about the politics of US News channels at that time, they weren't all in lock step with the CIA. I watched as Zhao Ziyang visited with the hunger-striking students, and I watched as the tanks rolled in. Don't try to revise history because you need the US to be the #1 bad guy. China had a chance to reform, and they cracked down instead.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Don’t try to revise history

You read wrong.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Deepseek will happily tell you anything you want about Tiananmen Square from any perspective you ask it with a little creative prompting.

Show me. You can get it to say some slightly vague things about it, but you can’t have it say “anything from any perspective”. Can’t we just leave out a conspiracy theory while discussing AI?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like I said, it just takes creative prompting

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hmm, I was talking about local running, but apparently that's just the non-distilled version, and someone got a very straightforward explanation with the 14B distilled version.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Then you should've specified that those were the parameters you wanted. Answers and thought processes will vary based on the prompt provided.

My point is that you can still use creative prompting to get answers you want that should be blocked due to its safety constraints. My point isn't that there's no guidelines to work around.

I'm not an AI researcher nor do I work professionally with AI so I'm not familiar with 100% of the background processes involved with these LLMs but if the question is "can you get Deepseek to talk about Tiananmen Square" then the answer is yes.