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I'm hodsting my own Matrix server with WhatsApp, Telegram, Discord (you don't need a bot for that, you can just share your login with the bridge) and Messenger bridge. I have all my IMs in one app, don't have to install spyware on my phone, and I can make bots that troll annoying people that message me on any platform.
Hosting it was super simple, thanks to the Ansible project that's extremely robust and well done, I literally just got a hosting, domain amd changed like 5 config values to enable the bridges I wanted, gave it an IP and ssh key, and ran it. And if I need to update, I literally "just update" (it's all wrapped up into "just" tool), and it eve handles cases where I didn't update for a while, failing graciously and telling me what I need to do maually, usually just rename some config values.
I wholly recommend it. You probably wont convince your friends to switch from , and this is the best compromise.
I'm using a small instance on Hetzner, for 6$ a month. You could in theory get a free oracle cloud instance for it, but I didn't manage to get one.
And you can easily share it with anyone interrested, make them an account, so they can also consolidate their DMs. I'm sharing it with a few friends and colleagues.
You've just made me waste the next 2 days, because this sounds great! Only thing I'm a bit hesitant about is trusting all bridge makers. I'm a bit more aware that I use a lot of FOSS where it could be easy for the dev's to just go rogue. But that's still better than giving it away to some closed source company.
WhenI was setting it up, it took me only like two hours tops. The ansible project is well documented, has a clear setup guide, and the process is really just getting server with ssh access, changing DNS, changing around 5 values in the ansible config and running it.
How do you get around the requirement to run the official app somewhere?
I run a WhatsApp and signal bridge, but not recommend running the official app on a phone
Yeah, that part about WhatsApp is annoying. I just have a spearate profile on Graphene that has only WhatsApp installed, and whenever it wants me to refresh a session I just switch to the profile and log in.
WhatsApp disconnects you if you don't open the official app every 14 days or so. So you definitely need it. I run it on an old tablet. It's supposed to run in a virtual machine (running Android) as well.
I've used an old phone just for this task... ;-)
Would you recommend the Discord bridge? I've always wanted to install that as well. Is there anything I want to know before putting in the effort to install and configure it?
I use mine for a single channel in a "medium-size" server (~2k people), a friend group server, DMs, and a few channels that follow a bunch of announcement channels on other servers.
Those are certainly valid points. But do I want to care about that? Honest question... Discord also doesn't care about my privacy. Or making the internet a better place. So I think -in turn- I feel quite alright to ignore whatever client they like me to use. And their exact ToS.
What's with the "taxing for large and active Discord servers"? Does it lead to issues if I'm not using their Electron app or website? I can't imagine where this additional strain on their servers would come from?! I run my own homeserver, by the way. So I shouldn't weigh down on anyone else's server...
When you use the official discord client, it only sends to your device whatever chat channel you have open at the time, and when you click on a different channel, it just downloads the last 20 messages, and downloads more when you scroll etc. If you bridge a discord server to a matrix server, it sends all of the contents of all of the channels in real time across. If the server had 50 channels, bridging it to matrix would be the equivalent of you having 50 official clients open, one to each channel. Hence the additional load on discord’s side to send you a lot more data than they usually would.
(Disclaimer: this is all conjecture based on a general understanding of how the systems work, I could be getting some details wrong)
Thanks for explaining. That makes perfect sense. I was under the impression there might be something else.
I'm not interested in forwarding spam in the first place. I don't think I have any use of channels where messages just fly by... So I think I should be safe.
@[email protected] which discord bridge? For Matrix? The one that operates as a Discord bot works perfectly. Don't know about the ones that want your login token.
I was thinking of mautrix/discord. Is that the one you use?
Works great for me, too.
I use mautrix/discord, it can work in both puppeting (sign into your account) mode and relay (bot account with webhooks) mode.
Thank you very much. I'm going to set it up then.
@[email protected] no. I use the app service one. It works well, but it's basically for bridging public channels. The Mautrix bridges all work very well. I've used the Facebook one in the past. It's just the limits those platforms put on the bridge (e.g. banning or locking account) that can be a problem. If your bridge is connecting from the same place as you normally connect to Discord from, you should be fine.
Thx. So far the mautirx ones have worked flawlessly for me. I got blocked once, years ago by WhatsApp when I first set it up. No issues after that, so I'm not really afraid of getting banned. And I'm not planning to use the apps or website much after I got the bridge running. That is if it offers all the features and I don't have a reason anymore to log in myself...
As far as I know the Discord bridge has some limitations, the major one being that IIRC it doesn't atually support calls. But just for chatting across servers it has worked well for me.
There's also the fact that you have to either trust the project with your password (as in, the the bridfe adds a matrix bot that runs on your server, but needs your pssword), since I think it uses the web version in the background (but then you can also use it for DMs and any server), or set up a bot on the discord server you want to bridge, which obviously cant be done if you're not an admin. It's a foss project, but there's always a small risk of it gping rogue.
I think I'd be fine with that. I'm using lots of Free Software projects, have Linux on my computers, wifi router, use random projects and Fediverse platforms ... So far every time one of my passwords got leaked it was some breach of a proprietary platform (last.fm, Facebook, ...) while the Free Software has served me extraordinary well. Usually it even limits the insatiable hunger for private data those commercial platforms have...
Yeah, that's my experience as well. In addition to being lazy with updating, so if some kind of supply chain attack happens, I usually sorts itself out before I get to updating :D
But I did limit my browser extensions, after I a cause with Nano Defender taught me a lesson - it was a mildly popular anit-anti-adblock killer that worked where other adblocks were detected, but the developer sold the extension to a company that turned it into a info-stealer malware and pushed an update through chrome store, which got accepted and propagated, and some of my social network sessions got compromised. So, I just stick to more popular projects where something like this shouldn't happen, and don't use random extensions.
Would you mind sharing the link t the ansible project?
https://github.com/spantaleev/matrix-docker-ansible-deploy
Its pretty well documented and easy to follow, it took me only like an hour to setup.
I'm not OP, but maybe this one?
https://github.com/spantaleev/matrix-docker-ansible-deploy
When I was looking into matrix bridges I heard a bunch of stories about people getting their accounts blocked after using them through the bridges. Is this still an issue?
I've been using it for almost a year by now, and so far I didn't have any problems. I've not considered that problem though, so it might be happening and I was just lucky.
Once in a while discord signs me out and I have to do a bunch of extra sign-in steps on the official client. But otherwise I have discord, WhatsApp, Google voice, Google chat, Google messages (sms), Facebook, telegram, signal.
All the mautrix bridges are will made and robust
There’s a matrix whatsapp bridge??
There is, but it requires you to log into the app every two weeks to maintain a session. You can setup a emulator to do it for you. I just have a separate profile on my Graphene with Only WhatsApp that I switch to and login whenever I get a warning.