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TLDR if you don't wanna watch the whole thing: Benaminute (the Youtuber here) creates a fresh YouTube account and watches all recommended shorts without skipping. They repeat this 5 times, where they change their location to a random city in the US.

Below is the number of shorts after which alt-right content was recommended. Left wing/liberal content was never recommended first.

  1. Houston: 88 shorts
  2. Chicago: 98 shorts
  3. Atlanta: 109 shorts
  4. NYC: 247 shorts
  5. San Fransisco: never (Benaminute stopped after 250 shorts)

There however, was a certain pattern to this. First, non-political shorts were recommended. After that, AI Jesus shorts started to be recommended (with either AI Jesus talking to you, or an AI narrator narrating verses from the Bible). After this, non-political shorts by alt-right personalities (Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Ben Shapiro, etc.) started to be recommended. Finally, explicitly alt-right shorts started to be recommended.

What I personally found both disturbing and kinda hilarious was in the case of Chicago. The non-political content in the beginning was a lot of Gen Alpha brainrot. Benaminute said that this seemed to be the norm for Chicago, as they had observed this in another similar experiment (which dealt with long-form content instead of shorts). After some shorts, there came a short where AI Gru (the main character from Despicable Me) was telling you to vote for Trump. He was going on about how voting for "Kamilia" would lose you "10000 rizz", and how voting for Trump would get you "1 million rizz".

In the end, Benaminute along with Miniminuteman propose a hypothesis trying to explain this phenomenon. They propose that alt-right content might be inciting more emotion, thus ranking high up in the algorithm. They say the algorithm isn't necessarily left wing or right wing, but that alt-right wingers have understood the methodology of how to capture and grow their audience better.

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[–] [email protected] 171 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

I think the explanation might be even simpler - right wing content is the lowest common denominator, and mindlessly watching every recommended short drives you downward in quality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Isn't the simpler explanation is youtube has and always will promote the alt-right? Also, no longer the alt right, it's just the right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

yeah i created a new youtube account in a container once and just watched all the popular/drama suggestions. that account turned into a shitstorm immediately

these days i curate my youtube accounts making liberal use of Not interested/Do not recommend channel/Editing my history and even test watching in a container before watching it on my curated account

this is just how "the algorithm" works. shovel more of what you watch in your face.

the fact that they initially will give you right-wing, conspiracy fueled, populist, trash right off the bat is the concern

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Man that seems like a lot of work just to preserve a shitty logarithm that clearly isn't working for you... Just get a third party app and watch without logging in

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

oddly enough it seems to be working, if i don't login at all youtube just offers up the usual dross

[–] [email protected] 55 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

I was gonna say this. There’s very little liberal or left leaning media being made and what there is is mostly made for a female or LGBTQ audience. Not saying that men cannot watch those but there’s not a lot of “testosterone” infused content with a liberal leaning, one of the reasons Trump won was this, so by sheer volume you’re bound to see more right leaning content. Especially if you are a cisgender male.

Been considering creating content myself to at least stem the tide a little.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I think some of it is liberal media is more artsy and creative, which is more difficult to just pump out. Creation if a lot more difficult than destruction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Creation if a lot more difficult than destruction.

Yup. A lesson that I fear we will be learning over and over and over in the coming years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Plus fact based videos require research, sourcing and editing.

Emotional fiction only takes as long to create as a daydream.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago

Not necessarily. For example a lot of “manosphere” guys have taken a hold of philosophy,health and fitness topics, a liberal influencer can give a liberal view on these subjects. For example in philosophy, explain how Nietzsche was not just saying that you can do whatever the fuck you want, or how stoicism is actually a philosophy of tolerance not of superiority etc. there’s really a lot of space that can be covered.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I refuse to watch those shit shorts; I think your theory has legs. Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be a way to turn them off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

FreeTube on PC and Revanced on phone

[–] [email protected] 14 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I use YouTube revanced to disable them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

Greatest app ever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago