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"I'm very tech-savvy, but I don't understand how the Fediverse work" - Then continues to write FUD... I'm so tired lol
If Pixelfed can reach 186k monthly active users in a week thanks to IG users, than I'm really not sure how tech savvy that person is indeed
A huge barrier for some is picking the instance and figuring which community they should follow.
I guess I had practice from picking MMO servers all these years.
Is it though? No one waited around and avoided email because they weren't sure which provider to use. Just make an account and go... if you hear or see other features that you want, then move.
Some instances filter which content comes through, which might concern some people. And email services offer different features these days, so people might assume the same of fediverse instances as long as we’re drawing that comparison.
I can't see downvotes and a lemmy.world admin threatened banning me for my half of a sarcastic spat.
Instances definitely matter.
they dont know it works like email tho, thats the initial hangup, also it already has issues like lemmyworld blocking piracy instances
When it came to email, we didn't care about the system becoming too centralized. They were all run by large companies that had the resources to keep things running for a long time, so no need to consider how long your email will survive. Most people didn't even know they had options. If someone you know made an aol email, then you also made an aol email. The content you receive is exactly the same regardless of where you sign up. No need to think about who federates with who, or how the instance gets moderated. Email is email.
"Lemmy has 42k monthly active users
Feel free if you have any questions"
Why those two? https://lemmy.world/comment/14616442
I slightly prefer mlem even tho its similar, arctic is the cleanest with the least issues displaying things imo, at least on iphone
The main appeal of Voyager is that it's available on both Android and iOS
I have a question.
How, if possible, can I log in to say, discuss.online above, with this account.
Or do I need to make a second account over there.
I am using the jerboa app at the moment if that helps.
Also, related, is there a way to just, use my Mastodon account, and drop this one completely?
You can't log in from your lemmy.world account, but you can interact with it through lemmy.world as if you had an account there.
You can interact with Discuss.online communities clicking this kind of links: [email protected]
Another example: [email protected]
A community with a few guides: [email protected]
You can't use a Mastodon account to log in to a Lemmy instance.
You can view/comment/vote on all of the content there while logged into lemmy.world. As an example, you should be able to click this [email protected] and participate there. or [email protected].
I am not a fan of "microblogging", so I am not 100% certain. I have seen a lot of posts/comments from Mastodon on lemmy instances, they are the people using hashtags.
Kbin and Mbin are Lemmy-like systems that also hooks into microblogging much easier, so you might be able to do a one account thing there much easier.
Again, not certain because microblogging is not my jam.
It seems you can't interact using Mastodon, but you can follow Lemmy with Mastodon. Mostly just wasn't sure because in some ways the Fediverse seems more connected and more into the idea of "follow everywhere", but also it seems like its not quite at "one account everywhere."
For the second part Reddit also have the same issue.
Reddit has a recommendation algorithm to do most of that work for you.
It is the "problem" of how accessible everything is. I know plenty of genuinely amazing coders who have no idea how an operating system (let alone the hardware it runs on) works because they don't need to know. EVERYONE has stories of people who don't understand directory structures because they grew up on google drive.
And it REALLY does not help that the average fediverse evangelist can't shut up and just give a simple answer.
In the Warframe space? What I and others have noticed works REALLY well is to tell the person trying it out "At the end of a mission you are going to get like 40 currencies. Ignore that shit, it doesn't matter". And in fediverse stuff? The answer is just to say "It is like having an email account at gmail or hotmail or whatever"*. It doesn't matter. Just go to join-lemmy.org or whatever and pick one of the top servers after doing their questionnaire".
Instead we have "Well, you need to understand federation and why it is so important. Read this white paper and then come back to me and I'll suggest a few youtube videos that explain what you are having trouble with"
*: The fact that I couldn't think of a good email provider that normies use IS the problem.
There should be a link, that redirects you to the registration page of a random (maybe based on geo ip) Lemmy server. Just don't mention to the user that they have a choice of servers. Just have them register and get on. Later, while using the Fediverse, they will learn how it works and be able to understand what it means to choose a Lemmy server yourself.
Anything else is just too complicated for the average person, I think. Hell, I think domain names other than lemmy.xxx is confusing some people.
This. Techies know custom domains are a thing. A LOT of people are going to look askance at anything that isn't among the most common TLDs. I mean, lemmy.zip is kinda funny. But it also screams "don't click me, zip files from an unknown source are dangerous!"
...and now I'm having intrusive thoughts about exe being a TLD. I'm-a go lay down until the voices stop.
I think they shouldnt even be shown other servers inititslly on the apps, have it in the corner as an optional pick, default to lemmee or shitjustworks since they dont block stuff like piracy, or if you're scared of legal trouble default to lemmyworld
Risky click.
Edit: It's unregistered. Which I view as a total failure of the Lemmy community.
It's actually registered, just doean't point to a website. https://www.whois.com/whois/lemmy.xxx
So what? You don't have to understand how something works to use it.
This guy thought so..
He was wrong.
Wow, that's a dumb argument. I don't have the slightest clue how it works, but I'm here!
IKR.
Call me a gatekeeper but it's not secret arcane knowledge for a privileged few.
You just sign up the same way you've done anything ever.
Generally, I don't believe it's actually an issue with complication. There's just a resistance to change. That said there's still significant onus on those invested in the fediverse to make sure It Just Works^tm^
I miss a lot of the niche communities of reddit that still had engagement. Lemmy doesn't have all that I used to have, but I decided to join anyway. Not everyone will do that, and like you said that makes the resistance to change even stronger.
It's fine to use both, most people do
thats kind of how it starts, individuals have different thresholds for migrating. its fine for it to take time. =)
I thought it was sh.itjust.works